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Dev channel update to 81.0.381.0 is live
Pinned taskbar websites are still losing their favicon and instead are reset back to the native Edge icon—which is not very useful at all. I've had this bug for a few builds & have sent a Smiley report.
I thought this had been fixed: it's not listed in "Known issues" in this first post nor in Top Feedback. Reproduction steps:
- Go to https://www.google.com
- Open the 3-dot menu -> Apps -> Install this site as an app
- In the new window, you'll see the favicon is now the taskbar icon. (GOOD)
- Right-click the new taskbar icon and click Pin to taskbar. The icon incorrectly resets back to the Edge icon (BAD)
The only workarounds are native PWA support by the web developer (i.e., Twitter when logged in) or first pin the icon to Start (will retain the icon) and then from the Start menu icon, pin that icon to your Taskbar: then, the pinned taskbar icon retains the website's favicon.
The favicon is already set correctly as the icon upon installing the app. Edge should not reset the icon to the Edge icon just because a user has pinned the icon to the Taskbar
https://streamable.com/nk31h (do watch it to ensure you understand what the bug is).
Peculiarities:
- Once a website has been set back to the Edge default icon, even uninstalling & reinstalling the website won't bring back its actual icon.
- Not 100% reproducible: some websites somehow can maintain their favicon, even without being proper PWAs (i.e,. the "+ Install" button in the address bar).
- The longer you leave an app open without pinning it, the more likely it will retain the favicon (but, again, not always)
I think the last peculiarity points to a lagging database write or some broken caching that's later fixed. The system should be fast enough, FWIW, so I imagine it's a bug in Edge:
i5-8600K (6c/6t @ 3.6 GHz base and 4.3 GHz boost)
32 GB DDR4-3200 (dual-channel)
Samsung 960 EVO 250 GB
100 Mbps download / 10 Mbps upload wired Ethernet
- josh_bodnerJan 14, 2020Former Employee
ikjadoon as you and others have noticed, we've got quite a few issues with the behavior of installing websites and pinning them via the Windows context menu. The installation problem is something we inherited from upstream Chromium, so we'll also get the fix from them. Also as you've noticed, it only affects certain websites.
The pinning behavior is something that I personally experienced recently since I've been setting up a new machine over this past week, so we've already got a bug filed for that. I'm using a Windows Insider build though (19041), so to everybody who's seen the shortcut either not launch Edge correctly or not have the right icon after using the Windows context menu to pin it, which version of Windows are you using? Since it's possible there are multiple causes to these issues, it would be helpful to try to narrow down where it happens as much as we can.
- HotCakeXJan 15, 2020MVP
What would be the explanation and reason that I can't reproduce this pinning problem on a fresh Windows 10 installation be? I'm also running Windows 10 insider but fast ring build 19541
here are my reproducing steps on both Canary and Dev channels:
- josh_bodnerJan 15, 2020Former Employee
HotCakeX ikjadoon I guess I forgot to actually say why I was interested in knowing if you were seeing any buggy pinning behavior in Windows Insider builds! The issue is with Windows, not Edge, and we made a fix in all Windows Insider builds 19xxx and higher. That fix hasn't had a chance to be ported back to non-Insider Windows yet (18363 and lower), so it's not surprising if people are still seeing it there, but if you're seeing it on Windows versions that do have the fix, then it means the fix wasn't sufficient.
Also Drew, 19041 is the current Insider Slow build, which is due to be released this year. 195zz is the Insider Fast Windows, which is what used to be called Skip Ahead and is what will be released either later this year or next year. Both rings should have the pinning fix.
- ikjadoonJan 15, 2020Bronze Contributor
josh_bodner Thank you for the update. I'm glad the Canary bugs will get the patch from Chromium, as creating the apps has actually worked flawlessly on Dev.
All my machines are on 1909, so all my Dev/Canary tests were conducted on 18363.535.
I've done a quick test now on Dev 81.0.381.0 (this thread's build) and today's Windows 10 patch (18363.592) and the bug can still be produced.
And, yes: the conditions are tricky. Here's one that's mostly reproducible:
If you install a site & you get the correct icon -> pin it immediately -> default icon reset -> uninstall -> reinstall -> no "website-app" is created, just another Edge.exe shortcut. That is, now you have just another shortcut to Edge. It's not the website you installed, it's not the favicon of the website you installed, and no longer is named "Google.com" (example). It even says "Microsoft Edge (2)".
I'll test more soon and see if I can narrow down something 100% reproducible; thank you, Drew1903 for following up as well. Others here may be better detectives than me, heh.
- Drew1903Jan 15, 2020Silver Contributor
ikjadoon josh_bodner
Yes, I didn't show the .xxx for 18363 as I was just distinguishing it from the Insider Build.
Now, this is interesting. I decided to try the scenario, again.
Canary: Turn a site into an app, pin its icon to the taskbar & it changes to an Edge icon; however, I didn't have MS Edge (2)... the app's name & thumbnail stayed correct.
BUT,
Dev: One of the same sites tried in Canary DID/DOES keep its icon after pinning. I found a 2nd that holds. However, others do not. So, there you have it, some stay true & proper, some morph into generic Edge icons.
I may not have experimented with multiple sites previously. Just reckoned any or all would do the same as one did... apparently, not.
Cheers,
Drew
- Drew1903Jan 15, 2020Silver Contributor
josh_bodner ikjadoon
"it only affects certain websites", Josh
Josh, it only affects the icon for sites converted to apps. And only when they are pinned... initially, before telling to pin they are correct & morph into Edge icons as soon as pinned. Sites pinned via Pin to taskbar under More tools do not change to generic Edge icons.
Now, to answer your curiosity about behavior on an IB vs 18363. I run both. I have tried & tested all this stuff on both 18363 and 19541. It is identical. And is you writing 19041 a typo?
BTW, I like the Greeting thing, that becomes a basic weather notice, on the NTP.
Cheers,
Drew- HotCakeXJan 15, 2020MVPWebsites are not converted into apps. that procedure only Pins the websites to start menu/desktop/task bar, that's it.
previously, "installing" sites as "apps" would auto-Pin them to the taskbar as well but now it's not happening.
- HotCakeXJan 12, 2020MVP
This problem doesn't exist on Edge insider canary Version 81.0.389.0 (Official build) canary (64-bit)
so whatever bug it was, they fixed it already, just need to wait it out until the next Dev update 🙂- ikjadoonJan 13, 2020Bronze Contributor
HotCakeX Incorrect—this taskbar icon bug confidently reproduces on Microsoft Edge Canary 81.0.389.0.
I reproduced it under 15 seconds...bolding your text that "this bug really doesn't exist on Canary" doesn't make it any more accurate, for what it's worth.
https://streamable.com/rd49b (HotCakeX's "test" from yesterday's Canary build)
Please read the reproduction steps more carefully, before making unfortunately erroneous claims. The bug doesn't affect every site. I've tested on two Edge Canary systems now with identical behavior. A screenshot from the system: the left is Canary; the right is a site-app pinned to the taskbar, from Canary. Renders the entire pinning icon system useless. Still needs to be fixed.
Canary is as broken as Dev on this bug. Canary might even be worse because now that icon sometimes will take you to the new tab page. Either you did not test enough sites or mistakenly used a PWA or an already-cached icon or you hit another corner-case.
- Drew1903Jan 13, 2020Silver Contributor
ikjadoon
Pinned icons changing from specific to Edge when pinned to taskbar affects sites converted to apps. It does not apply to sites Pinned to taskbar via More tools & NOT converted to apps. I have just tested ALL 3 current Channels (again) and can confirm the bug, the behavior IS, still, happening in all 3. You are correct.
Cheers,
Drew
- davequailJan 12, 2020Iron Contributor
ikjadoon josh_bodner Agreed. I am seeing exactly the same behaviour. On right-click to Pin to Taskbar the shortcut is named Microsoft Edge.
- Drew1903Jan 12, 2020Silver Contributor
davequail @ikjadoon @josh_bodner
I, too, have reported this bug behavior. But, I do want to clarify... it happens to sites that have been turned into apps. Their specific icon does morph into an Edge icon when & once Pin to taskbar is selected. It does not happen or change if pinning a (non-apped) site via More tools. It's after converted to an app not, as a normal (pinned) site.
Cheers,
Drew- davequailJan 13, 2020Iron Contributor
Drew1903 ikjadoon josh_bodner I have noticed this as well. Pin to Taskbar retains the correct icon