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sambul95
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May 25, 2019

Broken Websites

Let's dedicate this thread to websites, which exhibit unusual behavior in Edge Insider. They either don't open or work as expected, or cause high CPU and/or GPU load when in focus. 

 

One can check current hardware load in Settings-More Tools-Browser Task Manager, make a screenshot, and post it here. Before reporting the issue, try installing an Add Blocker extension like uBlock Origin, reload the webpage, and see if the Tab hardware load drops shortly. On older PCs and laptops, fans usually wind up with loads, so you feel it fast.

      • sambul95's avatar
        sambul95
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        HD321kbps 

         

        Can you post Browser Task Manager screenshot on that site in v176 (wait for it to populate fields)? Was high CPU & GPU processes load fixed too?

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      sambul95
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      HD321kbps 

       

      Thanks for the examples. I just check these pages, they load into Edge Dev 172 64-bit, but as many East European sites give high CPU and GPU processes load. It definitely needs devs investigation, unless of course its a "policy". May be some Edge Telemetry scripts don't make friends with European sites? :) They open in Chrome with near 0% CPU load. Fixing Edge handling of one of such sites may fix its handling of most of them.

       

  • greghile's avatar
    greghile
    Copper Contributor
    I had the same issue beginning with Build 174 and continuing to 175. I reset the browser settings, as suggested,and that took care of the problem. It also substantially -- and I mean substantially -- improved performance overall.
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      sambul95
      Iron Contributor

      greghile 

       

      Its unclear what Reset Settings actually does. Is it limited only to settings offered in Edge Chromium Settings UI? Or it involves resetting ALL flags and other Chromium hidden options? This is the question to Edge developers. It seems to switch off all extensions as well, despite they give no problems. Chrome extensions once added may modify browser hidden options. Resetting conflicts with Extensions work and purpose.

       

      I suspect that many European websites show high CPU and GPU load, because Edge can't properly identify when their webpages finished loading, or can't handle their scripts. They might contain some common scripts that are less often used in North America by web devs.

  • After today's Canary channel updates to version 174 and, just now, 175, I can't access:

    https://twitter.com/?lang=en

    https://www.windowscentral.com/

     

    Both are working fine on Chrome Desktop 74.0.3729.169 as well as Edge Dev channel version 172, Edge Mobile and Chrome Mobile.

     

    I've tried both sites on two computers running Edge Canary, including trying the user agent switcher extension after the problems with YouTube earlier this week...nothing is working.

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      gpshonik
      Brass Contributor

      Deleted Confirming the same behavior in 175.  Random sites won't load and tab says "Not Responding". All sites work in old Edge and Chrome.

  • ms4132's avatar
    ms4132
    Steel Contributor

    https://www.t-mobile.com will not load. It just spins and pops up a box for Wait or Cancel.

    Canary 76.0.174.0.

    Dev 76.0.167.1 does work.

    I have also reported this via smiley.

     

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      Poyen_Lin1285
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      ms4132 

      This is the situation I've had, and it's my solution.

      On Wednesday, I found I couldn't access the website https://ck101.com/

      ,but other browser could.

      I went to the Settings > Reset settings  reset all browser settings, restart the browser, and now I can access the website.

      • ms4132's avatar
        ms4132
        Steel Contributor

        Noel Burgess Thanks for letting me know. I tried it again now on 175 and it is working again.

  • I have opened a bug that references this thread.  Whenever you find a website that isn't working with the Insider builds, just add it to the bottom of this thread, with the build that you have tried it on and the symptoms that you are seeing.  It would also be very helpful if you were able to tell us if it worked on either Chrome or the current version of Edge.

     

    Thank you in advance,

    Elliot

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      sambul95
      Iron Contributor

      Elliot Kirk 

      I have opened a bug that references this thread.  Whenever you find a website that isn't working with the Insider builds, just add it to the bottom of this thread, with the build that you have tried it on and the symptoms that you are seeing. 

      What is the bug number? I need to reference it in talks with Edge Support. 

       

      Here is another example of hugely popular website Edge Chromium Dev 179 and all other versions show with indefinitely long high CPU and GPU load: 4pda     The load seems to be caused by the same popular script frequently used on European sites. Chrome shows it at 0% load. I don't see any progress on this matter at all.

    • Foghorn's avatar
      Foghorn
      Copper Contributor

      There is no problem with YouTube and the old Edge. We are talking about build 76.0.173.0 as of today.  Elliot Kirk 

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    MrX1980
    Brass Contributor

    sambul95

    Open issues: 

    a) https://www.7tv.de/ = videos cannot be switched to full screen (button does nothing). EdgeDev & Canary. Other browsers are working.

    b) http://audioexperience.dolby.com/ = "LEAF" video (on the left) does not work / play. EdgeDev & Canary. Old Edge is working.

    c) Flash Player content -> switch content to full screen = complete white screen. EdgeDev & Canary. Other browsers are working.
    Example: http://wwwns.akamai.com/hdnetwork/demo/flash/default.html

    (enable Flash Player = edge://settings/content/flash )

     

    (all problems also reported via smiley button)

     

    Fixed issues:

    a) https://www.funkykarts.rocks/demo.html = crashing on loading (fixed since version 76.0.167.0)

    b) https://www.dailymotion.com/ = video preview pics are broken (fixed since version 76.0.161.0)

    • sambul95's avatar
      sambul95
      Iron Contributor

      MrX1980 

       

      Its an interesting phenomena going on now with Edge Insider. Many folks are trying it on websites, which don't work well or fast enough in Chrome. While Edge devs mostly concentrate on optimizing performance of the most popular sites to match Chrome performance, like YouTube ets. 

       

      As a result, Edge mostly works well on North American popular sites. But in other world regions many sites cause high CPU and GPU process load in Edge Chromium, while Chrome works perfectly. I wonder whether Edge team purposely wants to limit the browser testing now to North American domains?

       

      Or this happens because local advertisers use JS and other browser hogs not frequent on NA sites? I tried to switch off all 3rd party scripts in uBlock Origin on such sites, but Edge high hardware and PC fans load continues on many foreign domains. I wonder if someone else noticed that?

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        MrX1980
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        sambul95 Hi, I currently cannot confirm your high CPU/GPU problem here in germany on my two Windows 10 build 18362.145 devices (desktop [i7-6850k / GTX 1060] & notebook [i5-7200U / HD620]).

        I use Edge Dev and Canary without any extension. If I load websites, I see for a short time spikes over 25 % and then under 6%.

         

        Are you using a different anti virus program than Windows Defender?

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    sambul95
    Iron Contributor

    sambul95 

     

    One popular website to report used by 5 mln folks per month is Google Earth. It doesn't work at all to navigate the earth. Here's the screenshot. I wonder if Edge Insider team can fix that?

     

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      sambul95
      Iron Contributor

      sambul95 

       

      Another popular website that currently appears broken is YouTube showing older UI. It seems to be just a matter of Google selectively pushing different pages to varying browsers. Its likely to be fixed later by negotiating the issue with Google. 

       

      But if you're in rush to use modern YouTube interface, try this:

       

      Install User-Agent Switcher, then change UA to Opera for Windows. Or check your browser UA and edit it to current Chrome UA string for MS Edge in the extension Options.

       

      Now if you're unhappy how Google treats Edge Chromium at their popular sites, isn't Edge team doing the same right now with many sites outside North America, like Western and Eastern Europe, by exhibiting high CPU load forcing users to switch back to Chrome that works perfectly well with near 0% CPU load on the same sites? Let's be fare to everyone instead of claiming Edge Chromium is discriminated against.

      • Foghorn's avatar
        Foghorn
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        sambul95 So, what is the point?  If Microsoft does that, it is ok to do for Google?  We are not talking about Microsoft here.  We are talking about Google.

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      sambul95 

       

      I think Google Earth will only work in Chrome.  I know it doesn't work in Firefox or IE.   This is from their website:

       

      With Google Earth for Chrome, fly anywhere in seconds and explore hundreds of 3D cities right in your browser. Roll the dice to discover someplace new, take a guided tour with Voyager, and measure distances and areas. Coming soon to more browsers.

       

      Bill

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        sambul95
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        Deleted 

         

        Nope, the reason it doesn't work in Edge Preview is the Edge devs removed Google Portable Native Client plugin from Chromium. Its in the installer package, but not registered properly, despite they still use the same Pepper API with Flash Player.

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