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When is my device going to update?
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Have you ever wondered when the device is going to scan, download, install, and/or reboot? About what logic goes into the “intelligent” decisions around when to update? In this session we are going to take you right to the source (aka the decision engine code) and unpack just some of the different things we look at when determining when to scan, download, and install with the developers who wrote the code themselves.
This session is part of the Microsoft Technical Takeoff: Windows + Intune. Add it to your calendar, RSVP for event reminders, and post your questions and comments below! This session will also be recorded and available on demand shortly after conclusion of the live event. |
- nkascoCopper Contributor
For Update Rings within Intune, is there (now or the future) a way to defer WU driver updates x #of days separately from quality and feature updates?
Also - What happens if a scan/install is missed due to a machine being asleep or offline? (+assuming it doesn't have network access via Modern Standby, or requires VPN, etc.) Does it just skip entirely, or run immediately once network access is restored?
- David_GuyerMicrosoftToday, no "deferral" capability for drivers in Update Rings... that capability is included in the Drivers management feature that is currently in Private Preview in Intune, and also in the graph. So, stay tuned, we are working on it!
- David_GuyerMicrosoftFor the second part, typically scans are about once every 24 hours, and if that is missed, happens pretty shortly after the device awakens again.
- SeMeDeIron ContributorReally looking forward to this event. Espacilly because of clients still stuck in 1909. Maybee we could altough get information about which drivers from Microsoft Update Catalog are tagged "automatic", which is relevant to know if they will get installed by Autopatch?
- Rob de RoosIron ContributorHow safe is delivery optimization. Specifically, where devices are allowed to pull updates from nearby devices. We have a security auditing company that is telling us to turn it off because devices could potentially get harmful/manipulated updates from devices in an unsafe environment.
- Joe_LurieMicrosoftGreat question, Rob. We have an AMA scheduled with the whole DO team on Thursday: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-events/ama-delivery-optimization-amp-connected-cache/ec-p/3652965. Would be great to bring this up with that team.
- Rob de RoosIron Contributor
Allready posted it in the comments there. Will join on Thursday!
- Heather_PoulsenCommunity Manager
Welcome to When is my device going to update? Today's presentation will be short and sweet so.....have a question? Post it here in the Comments. Subject matter experts will be answering during the half hour and throughout the week.
- Nicol HanekomBrass ContributorHow can we control when updates install when building a device using autopilot? We are finding that updates install immediately after autopilot completes, takes a long time and blocks any assigned apps from installing, even though the update ring policy is set to only install updates after hours.
- David_GuyerMicrosoftToday, there isn't a good way to do that, other than keeping your images as up to date as possible. Windows update should wait about 3 hours after completing OOBE for other tasks and for the user to get started. And should be looking for user activity to throttle background downloads and installs. Since these updates usually include security fixes, it is important to get any applicable and missing Windows Updates installed quickly.
- Rob de RoosIron ContributorHave you targeted to Users or Devices?
- Thanks!!!
- bdam55Iron ContributorLet say someone wanted to monitor the decision engine code choosing when to scan, download, install, and/or reboot in real-time ... how would you suggest going about such a thing?
- AriaUpdatedMicrosoftThey would wait for us to make logs that tell them all of that information in real-time.... Bryan. 😉
- bdam55Iron ContributorFlips 'Days since having real-time logs' wall calendar one more page.
- ZebulonSmithIron ContributorWill we ever see any improvements to the built-in notification dialogs when updates or restarts are required? I'd LOVE to be able to present a dialog that takes over the screen until a decision has been made by the user, maybe with an option to postpone for a period of time. Toast notifications are too easy to miss.
- JoeLentzCopper ContributorThe Windows 11 prompt takes over the full screen assuming you're using the default Windows update notifications option.
- Brandon_EmlingerCopper ContributorThis is also my question.
- Shawn_ThiekeMicrosoftWe currently have 3 levels of notifications for Windows Desktop machines: System Tray, Toasts, and Dialogs. Depending on the type of notification, and the urgency of the message, we choose the appropriate surface to use for display so that we inform the users, while minimizing disruptions to users actually using their devices. Our current dialogs for the most part do block the user from using the device until they take action, which is why they are used sparingly, and they have been doing this since Windows 10.
- Heather_PoulsenCommunity Manager
Joining Aria today are Alina Siembor, Shawn Thieke, and Prateek Garg
- TommekeBrass ContributorWhy do Defender antimalware engine updates don't receive reboot notifications while a reboot is required due to compliance based on risk score (MDE)?
- AriaUpdatedMicrosoftThis is a great question and something we are looking into! Hopefully in future all update related reboots will follow a similar flow. 🙂
- TommekeBrass ContributorThanks Aria, looking foward to have that improved!