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Michael_Silverstein
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Re: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
jbard Chris600 Thanks for reporting the "you can't leave this blank" issue when editing a document set's properties from within that document set. We're working on getting this fixed. If this isn't resolved by the end of next week, please let me know. Thanks!4.4KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
ZdenkaCechMavenir Thanks for confirming the content-type! If you can get the ListItem corresponding to the document set with the folder icon, you can do something like this: $listItem.Properties["vti_progid"] = "SharePoint.DocumentSet" $listItem.Update()3.6KViews0likes2CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
ZdenkaCechMavenir Thanks for the details (and example) for the icon issue! I've only seen the folder icon when the item was originally created as a folder and later changed to a document set. Would you be willing to answer a few questions to help us understand the circumstances where the wrong icon is shown? Do the document sets which have generic folder icons have the correct content type (e.g. "Document Set", not "Folder")? You can check this in the details pane. If the content type is "Folder", does changing that to the expected document set type restore the correct icon? When you click a document set which has a folder icon (to navigate into the folder), does the details pane automatically open if it wasn't open before? Might someone be using a tool to sync the contents of that library? It's possible that some applications accidentally overwrite the properties which distinguish document sets from generic folders. Thanks, Michael4.8KViews0likes5CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
Ryan_McConville I see that we don't update the "Search this library" text when you enter a document set, but I would expect the search box to show you results from the document set (or generic folder) whose contents you're currently viewing. It might also show you the document set that you're currently in. It can also include items in any folders your document set contains (and their sub-folders, and so on down). Are you seeing results from the root level of the list when you're in a document set and you search?4.4KViews0likes2CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
MarkBullard wrote: Michael_Silverstein Hi Michael - this feature is working great for new document sets content types (for new libraries), but how do we reset the welcome page for document sets in previously existing libraries? Or, is there a separate flag that can be set to always display in modern view regardless of the previous welcome page settings (we removed the icon and document set properties from the display as it took up too much screen space). The time it takes to navigate into the modern document set is definitely less than the time it took to open a new browser tab to navigate into the classic view document set - awesome. Just need to apply to all document sets for older libraries! Thank you for the continuous feedback and improvements. MarkBullard Hi Mark - thanks for the great feedback! We don't currently have a setting to force document sets into the new experience even when their welcome pages are customized. You can effectively "uncustomize" the welcome page by adding the missing parts back into the page. You'll need to go back to classic mode to access the welcome page, but then you should be able to Edit Page and Insert the missing web parts.4.4KViews1like1CommentRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
iDrive wrote: Michael_Silverstein I understand the bug exists in classic mode for the icon but it's not clear if you have any intention on fixing it. Is this something your team is working on at all? It's something so silly to just leave out there for years without implementing a fix and then going to roll out a whole new experience and continue to have the same bugs as before. iDrive The icon for folders which have been changed to document sets is something we're looking into - I agree that we should try to improve this in the new UI. A related issue is that these document sets will be sorted in with the folders, rather than listed among the files, in a document library view. This is harder to fix, since we don't have a straightforward way to update that sorting behavior on existing items.4.5KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
PaulRignanese wrote: Michael_Silverstein Hi Michael, For me, to get modern document sets to work correctly and look "Modern", I had to follow the steps in this article. https://mnaveedblog.wordpress.com/2018/09/19/enable-modern-sharepoint-view-for-a-document-set-in-sharepoint-online/ This works, when i open a document set through, it opens up the details panel, but only shows the document set name, not the other properties of the doc set. i've attached a screenshot. PaulRignanese Hi Paul, thanks for providing a screenshot! If you click "More details", do the expected properties show up? If not, could you check whether those properties are listed under "Columns" when you click the content type on the Library Settings page (i.e. step 14 of the instructions you linked)? Thanks, Michael4.6KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
Hannah1990 wrote: Deepu Nair LincolnDeMaris Did you ever get a response on this? I have the issue as of today with a new Document Set feature rollout. When document sets are accessed in the modern library they would automatically load with a custom view for the specific document set. Now it just retains the default top level view - I don't want users to have to manually select the right view. Hannah1990 If you set a "Welcome Page View" on the document set's content type, we should switch to that view automatically. You can access this setting via Library Settings: click on the name of the content type and then choose "Document Set settings".4.4KViews1like1CommentRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
PaulRignanese wrote: Michael_Silverstein Hi Michael, We have the document sets displaying in modern view ok, but we used to use Doc sets in classic view heavily, and cannot migrate from their in many situations because we are unable to display Document set properties on the top of the page for example, as there are no welcome pages in modern. Can you advise if anything like this is on the roadmap at all ? PaulRignanese In the modern view of a document set, the details pane should automatically open and show the document set's welcome page properties above other column values. Is there information that's missing from the details pane? Do we need to make the welcome page properties stand out more?4KViews0likes4CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
Ryan_McConville We're keeping an eye on the roll-out and looking for any issues that we would need to fix before continuing. This makes it difficult to give a worst case estimate - it would depend on how long those issues take to fix. That said, we're aware that people have been anticipating this functionality, so we don't want to delay it any more than is necessary to ensure a smooth roll-out.4KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
iDrive wrote: LincolnDeMaris is the bug fix for the wrong icon when the content type is switched? If not, are you all planning on resolving that? Another user said this has existed for previous versions as well. iDrive The recent bug fix didn't affect the icon issue - that's a symptom of the issue we have in classic views.4.1KViews0likes2CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
Ryan_McConville We are continuing the roll-out of modern document sets to more organizations. If your organization is now seeing the modern view, we'd love to hear any feedback you'd like to provide. If you're still seeing the classic welcome page, your organization will get the modern view in a later phase of the roll-out. Thanks again for your patience.4.1KViews0likes19CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
ZdenkaCechMavenir Once the functionality has rolled-out to your tenant, document sets will automatically open in the same window with a modern view. You won't need to change any settings yourself. The main exception to that would be customized document set welcome pages. If you've changed which web parts are shown on a document set's classic welcome page, we will continue to open that page in a new tab in order to preserve your customizations. ZdenkaCechMavenir wrote: LincolnDeMaris Very helpful!. but can you please let us know how to switch a docsets to open in same Window and not as new tab? I did played in view to add various Names fields. I found out you can replace in the URL ending parameter id with the docset title, but I do not want users to do it, it should be automatically. Can you please let us know what is the view setup to open in same tab and not switching to a classic page view?7KViews0likes8CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
DavidVs Ryan_McConville Thanks for your interest in modern document sets! We're still working on resolving a few issues, so I can't provide a definite ETA, but we're hoping to include more tenants soon. For now, modern document sets are available to targeted release tenants: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office365/admin/manage/release-options-in-office-365 Thanks again for all the great feedback on this thread!6.7KViews0likes7CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
Udaybhanu Karmakar Dudditz MikeAllen Thanks for all of the great information about the issue with allowed content-types in the "New" menu - it definitely helped us track down the problem! Here are some workarounds while we're working on rolling out a fix: Return to classic SharePoint, click on a document set, and click "Update the Document Set" above the document set properties. Create a new document set item in the library (you can delete it after, if you’d like). Add the missing content types to the library. The “change new button order” link below the content-types will allow you to hide them from the “New” button outside of Document Sets, if that’s desired.6.8KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
Paul Hawkins JustSpoor Dudditz Ryan_McConville MikeAllen Eric RENAUD We had an issue where only part of the modern document sets functionality was exposed to tenants that we didn't intend to be part of the current rollout scope. Those tenants were able to see the modern document set homepage, but unfortunately, not all the underlying functionality was there. This has been corrected, and now all the tenants receiving modern document sets have the full, up-to-date functionality. We're working hard on increasing this scope to include all tenants.6.8KViews1like10CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
FrankJohnson The default view of the document set will be the "Welcome Page View" from the Document Set Settings (the view which showed up on the classic document set welcome page). You can find this by going to the Library Settings page, clicking on the document set's content type, and going to Document Set settings. We currently list the welcome page columns before the other metadata on the document set, but I agree that we could do a better job of differentiating these columns. Thanks for the suggestions!6.8KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Update: Document Sets in Modern Document Libraries
Chris600 Thanks for reporting this issue! We have a fix in the pipeline. In the meantime, you should be able to edit the properties by navigating out of the document set and selecting its row (the same way you would edit its properties if it were a document).6.8KViews1like0Comments
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