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Holger_Duempelmann
Brass Contributor
Oct 17, 2023

Permanent worlds that can be entered without an event?

It is already fun to deal with MS-Mesh. The adjustments with Unity also work quite well, my colleagues say. As a business consultant, I only ever see the results :-). What I would find great is the...
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Vesa Nopanen
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Holger_Duempelmann You didn't overlook. Persistent worlds don't exist yet. The closest you could do is to create an event for every day and invite people there - but it will appear in their calendars so I don't really recommend that.

Other option, a hack with with a limited number of people, is to create an event to the future and set people as co-organizers. That way you can join the space in Customize mode- and it doesn't appear in your calendars until at the set date. 

 

So I would suggest you plan some events for certain , shorter timeslots, times a week. That way you can also maximize that people will be there. The problem with loose persistent spaces, especially with small number of users, is that people wander the space lonely most of the time. And it continues that people drop in, check if anyone is there, and leave. So eventually they don't even try out it very often anymore. 

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xrdyne2
Copper Contributor
Oct 18, 2023
you need persistent space if for example people are working on models for some purpose and they only got halfway done. doesnt matter if people are lonely. its not about hanging out but continuing the long running application whenever people can jump in.
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    Holger_Duempelmann
    Brass Contributor
    Oct 19, 2023
    This is really a good addition. I didn't mention it explicitly, but it was also a thought when I talked about persistent spaces.
    That is an invaluable advantage of virtual rooms as opposed to physical meeting rooms. I can just leave everything there and don't have to tidy everything up, as in physical meeting rooms, because a follow-up meeting is being held there by others.
    This scenario is even much more business-critical and valuable for the company than the currently focused culture initiatives.
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      xrdyne2
      Copper Contributor
      Oct 19, 2023
      Yeah i totally agree. the whole metaverse space ( i hate that word ) is litered with demos of cartoonish characters hiding behind your sofa. but most things in industry deal with the logistics of space. warehouses , assembly lines, car repair, paint jobs , bar tending. why demos only show bunch of people hanging out doing nothing is beyond me. there is so much to do actually. BMW and Siemen have totally virtualized their plant operations. But everyone else demos cocktail parties without the cocktails.
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        Holger_Duempelmann
        Brass Contributor
        Oct 19, 2023
        I can fully understand your examples.
        Now, of course, you can argue back and forth. I don't think that is currently the primary goal of Mesh.
        Microsoft differentiates very well here. First, Mesh addresses the "commercial metaverse", I don't really like the term metaverse either, and the things you describe are called "industrial metaverse" by Microsoft. Of course, there are also overlaps and permeabilities.
        It is up to us to identify meaningful and value-adding use cases from this area that offer us a good entry point with the customer.
        But I agree with you that the examples where people just hand out "likes and hearts" will not be enough to convince business decision makers to invest in more complicated economic times.
        But there are also such use cases in the commercial metaverse and that Microsoft will provide suitable functions for this in Mesh quickly.

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