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Any Windows IoT Core update for Raspberry pi 4?
- About to start a project need power of raspberry PI 4, when would IoT Core be available or do I need to move it to Linux/python?
Ok, so let's say that our favorite platform is dead in the water now... what are the alternatives? I'm not "that" attached to Raspberry but having not other option is what's really making me wondering for the foreseeable future.
I've been looking round to find something similar and I haven't found anything useful. Have you been more successful?
By alternative, are you thinking of a hardware alternative for the Raspberry Pi4 for Windows IoT Core?
What kind of hardware/software solutions are you looking to build? The Windows IoT Core SoCs and Custom processor page has a number of suggestions. The Windows IoT Core Processor table shows which versions of Windows IoT Core are supported on which processor family (covering up through release 1809).
While neither of these pages will resolve the question of Raspberry Pi4, they provide suggestions to consider.
Thanks for the reply!
Yes, I’m looking for something that would be officially supported for more than a couple months. When we look at the Pi, it never really worked like expected with Win IoT and I can’t find a clear candidate to replace it.
The sites you’re pointing out are the reason I’m so confused at the moment.
The “SoCs and custom boards” page was last updated more than 2 years ago and still state support for Broadcom and Raspberry PI. But clearly this is not the case anymore or maybe I’m missing something?
The table “Windows IoT Core Processor table” (updated 2018, about a year ago) goes even further saying “Up through currently enabled Broadcom Processors” … Again, this seams to be wrong.
So, if we cannot trust these references, what can we build on and not be left dead in the water in a couple months?
Maybe there are multiple questions I should be asking:
- Is there really a future for Win IoT or has this been abandoned? It sure feels like it is going downhill…
- If there’s a future for Win IoT, then is there one for the Raspberry Pi (3B+ and 4) on that platform?
- If not, then what will “really” be supported?
In terms of the kind of hardware/software solution, the Pi is mainly a hub sitting at the edge between Azure and the real devices (based on ESP). The Azure IoTHub & Edge solutions are not well aligned with the reality of residential solutions so we’re building our own stuff.
Since the Win IoT has never really worked for us, we went with Raspian (with dotnet core solutions) for over a year. The reason we are coming back is that we’d like to build some kind of UI on the hub and that would fit nicely with UWP.
I'm on the Windows IoT team. We’ve been working with our enterprise customers to provide solutions for their needs and currently this is our priority. However, we don’t want to abandon our developer community and have invested in partnerships with Intel, NXP, and Qualcomm to offer long-life supported BSPs for IoT Core.
Can we get an official response from Microsoft regarding future support for Windows 10 IoT Core and , if so, some reliable timelines for when updates will be released for production?
Looking at the website, it appears support for new devices halted in 2018 and the product is no longer receiving attention. As a Windows UI is preferred for our delivered gateway deployment, we had been looking to utilize the Core and Azure stack for our large IoT urban project. However, reading this forum there are hints that no resources are allocated for improving Windows 10 IoT Core and it has potentially been orphaned. Yes, we saw your statement about not wanting to "abandon our developer community" which does inspires some hope. Yet, the lack of movement on the Core for 2 years is telling.
If there is updated guidance from Microsoft in favor of a future for this product, we welcome it. Alternatively, if Microsoft has indeed made a business decision to forsake Windows 10 IoT Core, fine. We simply want to make a platform selection where it is evident there is a corporate commitment and on-going support/innovation thus affording flexibility to meet our customer's evolving needs. Certainly, we hope it is understandable that if there is no responsive reply to this inquiry we have no choice but to consider Windows IoT Core as being End-of-Life and act accordingly.
Feel free to reach out to us via my contact info, if desired.
