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Bug: Edge v104.0.1293.54 always unable to start after own update on v103.0.1264.77 (Stable)
SwimmeRM Hello - Yes, you are correct it is best not to post the dumps here because the files might have personal information. In this case, you can either submit feedback through the browser
("..." menu > Help and feedback > Send feedback) or you can reach out to Support
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/support/. Thanks!
-Kelly
Kelly_Y Hello again,
1st of all apologies for so much delay occurred before this additional reply of mine (due to some unexpected OS freezes).
Even if I still haven't received any further reply to my latest post P.S. questions (About your reference to that Dev support area could you be more specific ? I mean were you considering 'Microsoft Q&A' side or just the 'Insider Program' side where it also says 'Get help, including email support, for the Microsoft Edge Insider Channels.' ?) at least now I'm again able to provide you (and possibly others interested too) that I would still like to receive, I can now update you again about my previously anticipated tests and my current status.
- About using 2nd self rollback method described by Andy Zeigler in his Ignite September 2020 video based on executing v103.0.1264.77 setup via standard MicrosoftEdgeUpdate.exe updates while all properly required Edge policy settings were also enabled: only after I manually enabled all 3 required Edge v103.0.1264.77 policy settings I also discovered that same method could not have worked because my client was not inside a Domain (evidence of this was inside C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate\Log\MicrosoftEdgeUpdate.log where I also found this explanation ... [ConfigManager::LoadGroupPolicies][Machine is not Enterprise Managed]...). Due to this I also assumed that I would have likely needed to try to 'simulate' somehow being inside a Domain by only using OS group policies, but then I also figured out I could have not really been sure that doing so was indeed possible :-(( ;
- About manually running MicrosoftEdgeEnterpriseX64.msi v103.0.1264.77 using 'msiexec /I FileName.msi /qn ALLOWDOWNGRADE=1' syntax: I foud not enough spare time to try to ensure to definitely fix my client difficulties to install 64bit .msi programs only with Windows Installer (always failing) while 32bit .msi programs indeed always installed fine;
- About my current browser status: when on Tue 16th August I created this post I was forced to use latest Firefox Portable (v103.0.2.8255) but after some other unexpected OS freeze experienced while it was still running, on Sat 20th afternoon I found I could no more use it properly because of a weird error still unsolved ('Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible') even when starting it while also specifying its '-safe-mode' switch. Anyway same day in the evening I also discovered by chance that at least while in InPrivate mode, an Edge v104.0.1293.54 window could be opened properly (this happened after an IE11 InPrivate session, run with Admin privileges, displaying an embedded Youtube video on a local web site was redirected to another separate Youtube hosted site video that opened an Edge window using a very specific command line syntax I'm only partially logging here: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --from-ie-to-edge=1 --inprivate ...). Then on Mon 22nd evening my client also received latest (& current) Edge v104.0.1293.63 and finally only today I could find enough spare time to repro same situation again always starting from an IE11 InPrivate session run with Admin privileges. So, after I displayed another embedded Youtube video, at the end I choose to see another one and again this opened a separate new Edge v104.0.1293.63 InPrivate mode window, once again using a very specific command line syntax that this time I can nearly fully log here (I'm just excluding involved Youtube video because it was not in English: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --from-ie-to-edge=1 --inprivate --customer-type=1 --enable-features --disable-features --flag-switches-begin --flag-switches-end --do-not-de-elevate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<removed_since_NotInEnglish>&feature=emb_rel_end), and while that window was opened I also verified I could properly run Edge via its Quick launch application bar icon I manually created after dragging 1st Edge v92.0.902.73 self created icon from Start (menu) -> All programs (just for the records this is what it always runs '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --profile-directory=Default') , and this also allowed Edge v104.0.1293.63 (Enterprise) to recover those same 2 standard Edge windows that were still opened while Edge v103.0.1264.77 (Stable) was still running before an unexpected OS freeze.
At this point here are my new questions to you (unless someone else might like to jump to reply and maybe add even more details) :
- Is what I experienced, I mean Edge v104.0.1293.54 or v104.0.1293.63 only starting properly while in InPrivate mode because of a very specific command line syntax execution, something that had to be expected because Edge was not yet really switched to be OS default browser ?
- Is there already any known reference documentation (i.e. maybe on MS Docs, rather than inside 1 or more MS Support KB articles) that can also confirm all valid command line options available for Edge and/or Edge Enterprise ?
P.S. Just to confirm that now I've been able to report all older dumps created by Edge v104.0.1293.54 via Edge Feedback opened from same 1st Edge v104.0.1293.63 InPrivate mode window opened yesterday.
ITMT I also :
- checked that so far no known MS Support KB article exists to confirm MS Edge all known or most likely used command line switches (so far I searched starting from 'Microsoft Edge help & learning' page <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US>),
- tried to expand my investigation through bing to also look for "--from-ie-to-edge=1" switch usage but I still have to fully check results,
- can confirm you I received latest v104.0.1293.70 but I still have to manually restart Edge via its UI to complete its update.
Thanks in advance for any next reply.
Best Regards
- Kelly_YSep 26, 2022
Microsoft
SwimmeRM Hello! Unfortunately, I do not think the command line options are documented. Eric Lawrence, Principal PM has written an article about it here: Edge Command Line Arguments – text/plain (textslashplain.com)
-Kelly
- SwimmeRMOct 02, 2022Iron Contributor
Kelly_Y Hello and many thanks for confirming also which is current known status for Edge command line options.
Good to know that Eric Lawrence posted that article on his own blog, where I've already found some other interesting contents after Sep 21 when I investigated some more on resource.pak contents and usage, and while also trying to figure out if/which additional troubleshooting could be made for Application Log Event ID 256 (Source: Edge) error I also unexpectedly found recently and related to another OS reported corruption of an Edge extension that was installed months ago.(Just adding some more details here too:
Source: Edge "[2508:13316:0921/171231.326:WARNING:chrome_content_verifier_delegate.cc(231)] Corruption detected in extension emejglhjgnlgoeefgcdpfihajdhlfjen installed at: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\105.0.1343.33\resources\edge_share, from webstore: 0, corruption reason: 1, should be repaired: 1, extension location: kComponent"
...
Source: Edge "[23948:11212:0411/235326.953:WARNING:chrome_content_verifier_delegate.cc(233)] Corruption detected in extension emejglhjgnlgoeefgcdpfihajdhlfjen installed at: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\99.0.1150.39\resources\edge_share, from webstore: 0, corruption reason: 1, should be repaired: 1, extension location: kComponent").ITMT (yesterday), my client also received Edge v105.0.1343.53 but once again it hung (=stopped responding) on startup with no new dump created (inside C:\Users\<myAlias>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Crashpad\reports) after I used same Edge default icon, I've put on OS Application bar since after 1st Edge installation ('"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --profile-directory=Default').
Anyway since with Edge not working I'm also without access to my mailbox on Outlook.com, I decided to do more attempts using same method (trying to access a YouTube hosted video after IE11 displayed another local web embedded page YouTube video) that already worked in the past with other versions (for more details about versions see above my previous posts).
After Edge hung again (=stopped responding) on startup during 1st attempt I did (right after my IE11 InPrivate window started as Admin opened a new tab confirming that proper browsing needed an updated browser too) I also noticed that MS Security Essentials was also still doing its weekly quick scan so I decided to do a 2nd attempt after end of scan and luckily enough this 2nd one succeeded and IE11 successfully started a new Edge InPrivate window (with this same command line that failed during 1st attempt '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --from-ie-to-edge=1 --inprivate --customer-type=1 --flag-switches-begin --flag-switches-end --do-not-de-elevate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdhK3jtBQOY&feature=emb_rel_end') while showing 2 tabs (1st one showing involved YouTube video, 2nd one, also with focus, displaying 'Javascript Manager' extension default home page, while this time IE11 new self-opened tab was only showing an empty page).
Only after this, just like in the past, I was still able to use same Edge icon I have in OS Application bar to restore proper status of 3 Edge standard windows that were still opened before another unexpected freeze my OS experienced again on Tue 27th September morning.
Because of all these tests results and additional related contents found inside that Eric Lawrence blog post, I've determined that I'll need to do more tests experimenting Edge startup using so far known Edge command line options I've already documented in my earlier updates plus maybe some other other additional ones found thanks to that post from Eric Lawrence blog.
Best Regards
Rob
- SwimmeRMMar 07, 2023Iron Contributor
Kelly_Y (and others) Hello again,
once more I'm sorry for so much more delay occurred before adding this reply (this time less related to some unexpected OS freezes) and I know so far this topic has become a little too much TL;DR for you all (but as always I try to summarize all as much as I can).
Quick recap: since I determined that quite too much time was effectively needed to do more specific tests experimenting Edge startup while using best possibly applicable command line options among so far known Edge ones found, again thanks to reported post from Eric Lawrence blog, so I decided to postpone those tests also because I had to be involved in other issues too.
ITMT my client already received v108.0.1462.76 (that I was still able to start on 01/08 using same methods I already described before) and then latest v109.0.1518.78 (among 02/10 and 02/11 but only after also receiving v109.0.1518.49 on 01/13), that on 01/08 I also learned to be latest and last ever to be released for Windows 7 SP1 x64 (still my OS that I should hopefully quite soon be able to finally upgrade to Windows 10 0:-| :-((( ) so after another last unexpected OS reboot, yesterday was finally able to try using Edge Enterprise v109.0.1518.78.
At 1st I tried several times (8~9) with older method I already found and described in the past (using an elevated IE11 InPrivate session to view a frame embedded YouTube video hosted in a local web site page and initially inside same IE11 tab, to then try to switch video display to YouTube directly, and then "magically" see an Edge InPrivate session start correctly just right before using standard Edge icon in OS Application bar to then see Edge start correctly and also be able to fully recover all already opened standard windows and sessions) but any Edge InPrivate window that opened always stopped responding and so basically I always had to force closing it (only 3 times Edge succeeded in self-detecting own stopped responding status and then asked me to confirm restarting own window and InPrivate session, but always there was no real way to try to proceed further without closing involved window, and then in Edge Crashpad folder I also found 3 very recent .dmp files not already self reported by Edge...).
After all that I simply started again to think to temporarily switch to latest Firefox, but then I also decided to also try to run Edge via same icon I put in OS Application bar right after Edge completed own 1st ever installation (it was v92.0.902.73 then, and app execution was specified using this very basic option "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --profile-directory=Default) and then I was so very happy to see Edge coming again back to "normal" life, self check it wasn't closed correctly and then also be able to let me use [ Restore ] button to reopen all windows and standard sessions I still had opened before an OS unexpected Blue Screen.
I was still a little doubtful about Edge v109.0.1518.78 really getting back to normal usage, until today too (and very early in the morning in local TZ while I was also writing this update...), my laptop decided to self reboot suddendly without any Blue Screen but once again after that my OS indeed recovered fine. After that I only ran Edge via Application bar and once again I'm very happy to say that it started fine and once again allowed me to use same "magic" [ Restore ] button to get all past Edge opened windows and sessions back to normal life.
So I guess and hope all this also seems to at least end this discussion thread...(and all previously unreported .dmp files were attached to a 'Send feedback'...) 0:-) ;-D
Best Regards
Rob