Sep 04 2021 02:51 AM - edited Sep 04 2021 02:53 AM
Sep 04 2021 02:51 AM - edited Sep 04 2021 02:53 AM
i want to know whether windows 11 will support the following Intel® Core™ X-series, Xeon® W-series Intel® Core™ 7820HQ (only select devices that shipped with modern drivers based on Declarative, Componentized, Hardware Support Apps (DCH) design principles, including Surface Studio 2) or all the 7th gen processor. or will Microsoft add the remaining 7th gen processors in coming days I mean before Oct. 5th windows 11 launch and also mine i3-7020U will it support ?
Sep 05 2021 03:44 AM - edited Sep 05 2021 03:46 AM
Microsoft has given no indication whatsoever that the list will be expanded to include 7th Gen Intel Core processors.
Microsoft began notifying Windows Insider participants running on unsupported processors to revert to Windows 10:
Microsoft is starting to drop PCs from its Windows Insider testing program that are ineligible to upgrade to Windows 11. If you’ve been helping Microsoft test Windows 11 on a machine that doesn’t meet the minimum hardware requirements, you’ll likely see a message in Windows Update warning that you’ll need to reinstall Windows 10.
“Your PC does not meet the minimum hardware requirements for Windows 11,” says Microsoft’s warning. “Your device is not eligible to join the Windows Insider Program on Windows 11. Please install Windows 10 to participate in the Windows Insider Program in the Release Preview Channel.”
Windows 11 testers in both the Dev and Beta channels have started receiving the message on incompatible PCs this week, just as Microsoft has announced its October 5th release date for the upcoming OS. It’s something that Microsoft warned testers would happen at the beginning of the beta period of Windows 11, but it still highlights the often confusing minimum hardware requirements that Microsoft has set.
Microsoft also issued an updated explanation of why Microsoft's requirements are what they are: "Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements and the PC Health Check app".
Both suggests that Microsoft will not expand the list before Windows 11 is released on October 5. In a word, the answer to your question "Will windows 11 support all 7th gen CPUs?" is, at this time, "No."
Sep 05 2021 03:51 AM
Sep 05 2021 04:36 AM - edited Sep 05 2021 05:18 AM
"But the Microsoft support team told that they will add 7th gen CPUs before Oct 5th."
Could you point us to a document (or other source) in which Microsoft said that? If Microsoft announced -- anywhere -- that Microsoft "will add 7th gen CPUs before Oct 5th", it would be welcome news -- and important enough to be widely reported in the trade media -- but there has been nothing reported in the media or (to my knowledge) in Microsoft documents concerning Windows 11.
"There are still updates coming in the following days. Means they are really making additions to the list?"
Windows 11 issued Build 22000.176 to the Release Preview Channel a few days ago. The Build is almost certainly RTM or close to it, and updates between Build 22000.176 and the release Build are likely to be minor.
Anything is possible with Microsoft, I suppose, but Microsoft has been notifying Windows Insiders with 7th Gen processors (e.g. my Dell Latitude 7280 with an i5-7300U processor) that we should revert to Windows 10. Your guess is as good as mine, but it doesn't look like 7th Gen processors will be supported by October 5th. I would like to be wrong about that, but I don't see any indication at all that Microsoft is going to support 7th Gen processors by October 5. A year down the road, who knows?
Sep 05 2021 05:26 AM
Sep 05 2021 06:45 AM - edited Sep 05 2021 06:59 AM
@mohith1402 "One of the support agent of Microsoft gave me the list of some computer will will be eligible for windows 11 update here is the list ..."
Thanks very much for the information.
Focusing on Dell, the list Microsoft support provided to you is very interesting, because the list suggests that Microsoft's right hand has no idea what Microsoft's left hand is doing.
Looking at Dell computers that you and I own:
(1) Dell Latitude 7280 (i5-7300U) - The computer is on the list you provided. The computer has been enrolled in the Windows 11 Insider program. I received notification from Microsoft that the computer will not be supported for Windows 11 upon release, and that I should revert to Windows 10 at this point. The 7300U is not listed as a supported processor on Microsoft's list of compatible processors. The computer is not on Dell's list of computers being tested for Windows 11 compatibility, and Dell will not provide Windows 11 drivers for the computer. Microsoft's updated "PC Health Check" (currently available to Insiders, to be released to the public shortly) indicates that the computer is not eligible for upgrade to Windows 11.
(2) Dell Inspiron 3584 (i3-7020U) - The computer is on the list you provided. The 7020U is not listed as a supported processor on Microsoft's list of compatible processors. The computer is not on Dell's list of computers being tested for Windows 11 compatibility, and Dell will not provide Windows 11 drivers for the computer.
(3) Dell Latitude 7390 (i5-8350U) - The computer is not on the list you provided. The computer is not enrolled in the Windows 11 Insider program. The i7-8350T is on Microsoft's list of compatible processors. The computer is on Dell's list of computers being tested for Windows 11 compatibility, and Dell will, in all likelihood, provide Windows 11 drivers for the computer. Microsoft's updated "PC Health Check" (currently available to Insiders, to be released to the public shortly) indicates that the computer is eligible for upgrade to Windows 11.
I have no idea what this all means. We both own computers on the list Microsoft provided to you, and you provided to us. Neither computer has a processor that is on Microsoft's compatibility list, neither is on the list of computers that Dell intends to support for Windows 11, and one (my Latitude 7280) got bounced from the Windows 11 Insider program a few days ago because it was not eligible for the upgrade.
The list you provided seems to be in conflict with Microsoft's list of supported processors, Dell's list of computers being tested for Windows 11 compatibility, and Microsoft's upgraded PC Health Check. Go figure.
Microsoft's PC Health Check will be released to the public soon. When it is released, you can download the tool and run the check on your computer. That should give you a definitive answer for the October 5 release, although Microsoft might continue to add processors to the list of compatible processors in the future.
I guess that all we can do is wait and see.
Sep 05 2021 06:58 AM
Sep 05 2021 07:03 AM - edited Sep 05 2021 07:31 AM
@mohith1402 "... my laptop is in the dell list which you provided ..."
Yup, I missed it, although the fact that Dell is testing the computer doesn't mean that the computer will make the Windows 11 cut:
"This article designates Dell laptops and desktops that will be tested for upgrade to Windows 11 once that operating system releases. If your device is not listed below, Dell is not testing the device and drivers will not be upgraded for that model."
I'm not sure what Dell means by "will be tested for upgrade to Windows 11 once that operating system releases". The Dell article was released July 21, at a point where Microsoft was saying the 7th Gen processors were being tested as part of the Insider program, and Microsoft's testing process looks like it has come to an end -- See "Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements and the PC Health Check app" (released August 27), which says this:
"In June, we heard your questions about how we set the Windows 11 minimum system requirements and shared more information on the established principles that guided us in setting them. And as a team, we committed to exploring through Windows Insider testing and with OEMs whether there were devices running on Intel 7th Generation and AMD Zen 1 processors that met our principles."
"Following the results of our testing, we are making a small number of additions to the compatible processor list (explained further below), but otherwise will maintain the minimum system requirements as originally set. We have concluded that the compatible 64-bit processors selected, 4GB of memory, 64GB of storage, UEFI secure boot, graphics requirements and TPM 2.0 are the right minimum system requirements to deliver on the principles we established to best support you."
It all depends on Microsoft's future decisions about 7th Gen processors, I guess. Based on the linked article from Microsoft, though, I doubt that the situation will change before October 5.
Sep 05 2021 07:40 AM
Sep 05 2021 07:53 AM - edited Sep 05 2021 07:57 AM
If you have a definitive answer to your question, why ask the question? It seems to me that you are wasting your time and mine.
Sep 05 2021 08:19 AM
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Sep 08 2021 08:30 AM - edited Sep 10 2021 03:17 AM
@mohith1402 "Can you reply please tell me where to address this issue if I contact Microsoft support some say that 7th gen incompatible some say all the 7th gen are compatible please wait for windows public release but it seems like they are not going to add any CPUs in coming days"
As an alternative to running around chasing your own tail, you can wait and see what Microsoft does when it does whatever it does. Although Microsoft often changes course in unexpected ways, current Microsoft documents (see above comments) support your supposition that "it seems like they are not going to add any CPUs in coming days", so I think you can take that option off the table.
At present, Microsoft supports a few 7th Gen X-series processors for Windows 11. Microsoft might expand support to more 7th Gen processors in the future, but it might not because there are significant security differences (related to the Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities, among other things) between 7th Gen and 8th Gen (and subsequent). The architecture differences between the generations seems to be what is driving the line drawn between 7th Gen and 8th Gen.
You will not find an answer in this forum, because this forum addresses Microsoft Edge issues, not Windows issues. I suggested earlier that you might find better information in the Windows 11 community forum but I doubt it. I did a search within that forum this morning and found no information of any value.
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