01-13-2020 11:55 AM
01-13-2020 11:55 AM
Hi Insiders. We have received a whole lot of feedback on the overall design of the next version of Microsoft Edge. First off, we would like to thank you all for the feedback that you have submitted. We also want you to know that we are continuing to evolve the look and feel of the new Microsoft Edge. You can see our progress in our new icon, in the changes to dark theme, on the layout of the settings pages and in the style of the controls that we have added so far. Our goal has been to modernize the next version of Microsoft Edge while keeping the feel of the original. In the five years since we released the first Microsoft Edge browser with Windows 10, the Microsoft Design Language has and will continue to change and adapt. We have been evolving our user interface with this in mind and may be the first place you see some of these changes. We are planning on continuing to apply elements of the Microsoft Design Language to align with other Microsoft products.
We are thrilled with how much you think about the look and feel of the new Microsoft Edge browser. As we dug into the feedback, we found different ideas lumped together into very broad buckets and felt like we needed to re-sort the issues into new categories that are more specific to the actual issues that were being discussed. The previous categories that we have been reporting on are:
The first step of this journey was to dig into each of the feedback items individually and understand what your ask was, and if there was a reason listed for the feedback. This helped us better understand why you are asking for these changes. The next step we took was to recombine the feedback and sort it into more specific buckets. We understand change is challenging, and we are not changing our interface just to be different. We have been working closely with our designers to get a look and feel that aligns with our Fluent Design language and meets our standards for usability and accessibility. It is our goal for our design to be easier to use on a daily basis. When you provide feedback, it helps us to challenge our assumptions and makes us reanalyze our conclusions.
Based on this analysis, we are seeing the following themes emerge from your comments: we will be tracking and following feedback in these categories going forward:
We would love to start talking about these items now. Please let us know if you think that we are on the right track with the changes we have made so far. The most impactful feedback is that which lists the task that you are trying to accomplish, the challenges that you face while accomplishing it, and your ideas on how it could be made easier. Also, feel free to reach out if you think that we have missed something important here. We will always take feedback and suggestions to help us make this the best, fastest, most productive browser possible.
05-16-2020 05:47 AM
Hello @Elliot Kirk
In my age the vision capacity is dimmed. I like the dark theme. Thus when and if the website does not have an icon or icon in not shiny I cannot see the tab of that Website when it is pinned.
Could you please brighten the border or background of tabs a little. May be dimmed beige or very light velvety color. I am happy with the rest and divorced Chrome for ever in my PC.
Thank you. Candan Esin MD Istanbul Turkey.
05-20-2020 06:42 PM
Sir, I like the current size of tab-band and address bar. Edge looks beautiful. Please do not make it small (like in Google Chrome).
05-27-2020 08:11 AM
HI @Elliot Kirk
Thank you for this thread. I love the new edge. However, the interface elements on Edge feels more of touch centered. This is visible in the bigger spacing for right-click context menus etc. While this is fine at most places on the UI, it really impacts the users who have a lot of bookmark folders and bookmarks inside each folder on the bookmark bar. It takes a good bit of scrolling to go to the desired bookmark, which is inside a folder and the menu is occupying half the screen. Please see below a small comparison pic of Chrome vs Edge. This is the only reason I'm still using Chrome, despite immensely liking the new Edge.
I have seen several other users mentioning the same thing on several forums and I hope I'm at the right place where this feedback will be taken and possibly addressed. Thanks.
05-28-2020 12:11 AM
@ilikered- Edge fans will eat you alive, most of them love every pixel of it. Posting about too much padding in menus and toolbars will only get you a few posts explaining how wrong you are. I know, 'cause it's been explained to me several times here and ultimately, it's best to let it go.
05-28-2020 12:28 AM
05-28-2020 11:06 AM
@NamishB They could at least fill this empty space, though, its really getting on my nerves.
05-28-2020 09:52 PM
Same here. From the time I installed this browser, I absolutely hate that space. In this aspect, I like all UWP applications, including Edge Legacy; at least when my mouse pointer hovered over the buttons, it was somewhat satisfying. This one nerves me out too.
05-29-2020 05:52 AM
@relu84 If it was an issue that wasn't impacting me, I wouldn't have raised it for sure. But it gets in the way of using this browser and I'm kind of forced to stick with Chrome despite liking Edge immensely for its speed and low memory usage. Please see below to understand how bad it is.
It would be great if this aspect of the browser can be addressed. If we can at least get a flag that can be flipped for a desktop interface vs a touch interface, that would suffice I guess.
06-02-2020 06:20 AM
I see why there is value in making the text smaller - the top of the screen is messy and overloaded. Especially when lots of tabs are open. OTOH, small text is harder to read. I wonder if some kind of alternative might be better, such as shrinking the tabs/address-bar unless the mouse is over it?
Like the auto-hiding taskbar on windows, but less extreme (i.e. don't hide it entirely).
For me I always want to see the address of the page I'm visiting but always seeing the names/icons of the tabs and the control buttons is irrelevant - I know tabs and controls are at the top of the screen if I need to access them so auto-hiding those would be fine. The desire to always see the address is why full-screen mode is largely useless to me.
Just food for thought.
06-08-2020 10:31 PM
@royamicus185- I'm afraid this is a thing that happens frequently with Microsoft. Things get introduced but all the enthusiasm seems to die down in the middle of the road. When Fluent was introduced it showed up pretty fast in several areas of Windows and some apps, but not everywhere. One would think Fluent would become more common with each update but nothing happens.
I believe Chromium draws all of its UI with its own methods to make it easier to port to other platforms. It may be so that Edge developers need to replace each and every function of UI drawing with new code and that is why it's taking so long. I also think this is not a priority for the team and it's priority is down there next to a Linux build.
06-09-2020 05:10 PM
06-10-2020 01:28 PM - edited 06-10-2020 01:30 PM
I would really like to see the transparency in the new Edge. I think the best way to do this is have a switch that turns the transparency on or off, or have a slider to turn it off or make is really transparent or anything in between. It really should be optional so if people don't like it, then they aren't forced to use it, but I personally would love to see transparency. I think that the transparency would just make Edge look really good, especially with dark theme.
06-16-2020 08:48 AM
I am going to write down what the topics are in bold and my views/opinions normal sized, also the headings that are blue are the ones not summarized in the last paragraph, to make it easier to skim through
This last paragraph is sort of a summary of what needs to be added/changed to make it more customizable
I would like to add that, like Extensions can be added to the Extensions page, making Themes in 'Themes' page downloadable from MS Store/other webstores but have built in themes that include the current Light and Dark themes, alongside varying types/levels of Material from Fluent, this if shown in a Grid like MS Store shows it's products, except instead of details it has only name and image of what it looks like, alongside having a slider for size of all Taskbar/Toolbar elements, and an option to select what colour the InPrivate browsing button is, would make Edge one of the most customizable browsers.
06-25-2020 03:36 PM
I can't differentiate between the tab that is selected and all other tabs. This should be filed under an Accessibility issue. Users that have trouble seeing or trouble seeing certain colors simply cannot use this browser. Even the delineation between tabs is too faint/thin.
07-14-2020 04:38 PMSolution
Thank you so much for all your feedback on the overall design of the new version of Edge, as it is invaluable to our getting the experience right. A common thread through this feedback has been a lot of discussion about the definition of “Fluent” design, and how it should apply to Microsoft products, so we wanted to share an update to provide some clarity. As opposed to a specific or static set of design rules, Fluent is intended to be an ever-evolving design system across Microsoft products. As the world around us continues to evolve, including devices, interaction models, user habits and expectations, the Microsoft design system must also evolve to meet the changing needs of our users. This means Fluent will not necessarily always represent everything that it did several years ago when the look and feel of the legacy version of Edge was first developed. You can learn more about the current direction of Fluent by visiting the Fluent Design System Page, which provides a summary of the design system as a whole, as well as how it applies to different platforms, applications and controls across Microsoft.
If you browse through the Fluent guidance at the link above, you’ll note that the new version of Edge is aligned with the current direction Fluent is going, and we will continue to evolve along with the design system and Microsoft as a whole. While Edge may be one of the first to put some of these new Fluent elements into practice, you will continue to see other products across the company update to reflect this direction as well. For example, you’ll notice that the latest Fluent designs are characterized by rounded corners across objects and controls, and the new version of Edge is consistent with that guidance. Another example is that there isn't a pivotal focus on transparency in the latest Fluent designs, and surfaces of the new version of Edge reflects this.
This is not to say we will never consider incorporating such aspects into our designs going forward, or perhaps offering options to customize the look and feel, but there are no plans to incorporate these elements into the default experience for all users at this time. However, there are other design investments on our roadmap to continue aligning with the broader Fluent direction, such as updating icons and illustrations across the product. Please continue to send your feedback on the overall Edge look and feel, including preferences and pain points, as we are always open to learning more and updating our direction based on the needs of our users.
- The Microsoft Edge Team
07-15-2020 11:39 AM
07-15-2020 01:42 PM
I guess on some point UX guidelines will be rewritten to match the current state of chromium-edge. Round corners were announced after adopting chromium, despite they break Reveal effect and in many apps it was replaced with simple hover light+shadow.
Acryl also cost too much on mobile devices and maybe it also will be removed at least for title bars as it was once with win8. I didn't see it on win10x demo.