Virtual network integration in App Service requires one subnet per App Service plan integration today. If you are working with many App Service plans, managing the subnets can be an unnecessary administrative task. Therefore, I am happy to announce that as of November 1, 2024, multi plan subnet join (MPSJ) isgenerally available in all public regions.
MPSJ reduces subnet sprawl when dealing with many apps across many plans and simplifies management of networking control such as Network Security Groups and Route tables across App Service plans.
A subnet used for MPSJ must have an address space of at least /26 (64 addresses). With MPSJ you can join a virtual network/subnet in a different subscription, but all App Service plans joining a specific subnet must be in the same subscription.
You may still want to use individual subnets if you plan to differentiate on Network Security Group configuration, NAT gateway or other subnet specific configurations.
When using MPSJ you will need to pay extra attention to the subnet size. Each instance from each App Service plan requires one IP address. When scaling up/down, the IP address requirement is still doubled for that specific plan, and when scaling in it may take some time before the IP addresses are released. There is no limit on the number of App Service plans you can join with a single subnet, but you will be limited by the number of available IPs.
In addition to the Azure portal, you can also use the Azure CLI or ARM to enable the feature. To connect using CLI you need the Azure Resource Id of the subnet:
Azure portal enables virtual network routing of application outbound internet traffic by default, but if you are joining using CLI, you either have to go to the Azure portal afterwards to configure that or you can run this script:
Hi Jordan! I have tried to join two app service plans (WS1) to the same subnet, but when i diagnose my logic apps I get the following error: Current App Service Plan is not the owner of the subnet's ServiceAssociationLink. And: Multiple App Service Plan(s) are connected to the same subnet
The Logic Apps that we use seem to work, should I ignore these errors, or have I done something wrong?
Can you explain what you mean by diagnose and where you're seeing that error?
You should be able to safely ignore it assuming it is not blocking anything for you, but I would like to let the team know so we can prevent others from getting confused as well. We can only have 1 ServiceAssociationLink (SAL) on a subnet, so it goes to the first App Service plan that is joined. All subsequent plans inherit that same SAL, so that's all that error is saying.
If I go into the Logic App that is connected to a ASP that is sharing a subnet and select Diagnose and solve problems and then select Networking i get those errors:
Just to clarify, are you asking if you can scale up (add more instances) to an existing App Service plan that is already vnet integrated? The answer to that is yes, just be aware of the available IPs.
If this was not what you were asking, please let me know.
Hi folks. We found a bug with the MPSJ subnet size validation which is the reason some of you are unable to use vnet integration even without MPSJ. We are discussing internally what we can do to mitigate this issue as quickly as possible. Will update shortly.
Please see the note in the docs about the bug. Link provided below. We are working to address this as soon as possible. We've provided mitigations in the doc in the meantime. We appreciate the patience while we work through this.
I've had a read through the learn.microsoft link but the workarounds don't seem to b e relevant for the issues we're facing:
Before this change, we were able to deploy multi ASPs onto the same /28 subnet without issue. However, since the change, we're receiving an error if an ASP already exists. We are not using multi-plan subnet join in anyway at all.
Is there any workaround for this scenario at present? If not, do you have ETA for the fix yet? It's starting to have a bit of an impact on our deliverables.
I have an issue where if I integrate multiple app services to the same subnet, it looks like it should be working, but it doesn't work correctly with NAT gateway assigned for outbound traffic. I would like to have all of my app services within an environment use the same subnet for VNET integration, and all of them use the same NAT gateway for outbound traffic. If I set it up this way, there are issues found in the diagnostic section where it says one of the app service plans on the subnet is the owner of the subnet. To get around this, I've had to make multiple subnets, and integrate each app with its own subnet. Then I'm able to use the same outbound NAT gateway for all of them.
Our deployments started breaking this week with the error "Minimum subnet size allowed for joining multiple App Service Plans to same subnet is /26, the subnet attempting to be joined is /27" as well.
We are not using MPSJ. We just have a staging slot and a production slot for this app. When attempting to recreate the staging slot, we have started to get this error.
Can you please file a support ticket for this? We need more info about your app to determine what the issue with your scenario is and can start an investigation once you file that ticket. The bug that we found might not be linked if your scenario turns out to be different. Thanks in advance.
Thanks, jordanselig . Our issue was resolved. Our Terraform config was, in fact, specifying a subnet from a different plan, so I guess we were unwittingly using MPSJ without knowing about it. I'm assuming that the subnet size validation errors were enabled last week. We ended up correcting that app service to use the intended subnet.
davidkarlsenjordanselig Yes, "a subnet used for MPSJ must have an address space of at least /26", but we're not using MPSJ so a /28 should still be an acceptable subnet size to use.
Or am I being too literal with this, and "multi-plan subnet join" actually applies to multiple apps on the same plan?
davidkarlsen you're right. i missed the subnet size. we have validation in the create experience because we don't recommend using anything smaller than /26. so it's blocked during portal creates. however if the app already exists, we don't have this same subnet size validation in the vnet integration experience for existing apps.
depends_on The announcement stated that a /26 or wider is needed:
"A subnet used for MPSJ must have an address space of at least /26 (64 addresses). With MPSJ you can join a virtual network/subnet in a different subscription, but all App Service plans joining a specific subnet must be in the same subscription. "
depends_on it should work when creating new apps in the portal. i just attempted to repro on my side and am not getting any issues and the subnet I used already has 2 other plans associated with it. if you continue to get this error, I would recommend opening a support ticket so our team can have a closer look at what might be causing the problem with your experience.
regarding the additional validation errors you are seeing, thanks for bringing that to our attention. i will investigate and see what's going on there.
jordanseligAnother problem is that we see MPSJ validation errors when adding new apps to existing app service plans that already contain an app, when MPSJ isn't even in use.
This is the error: "Minimum subnet size allowed for joining multiple App Service Plans to same subnet is /26, the subnet attempting to be joined is /28."
Just to reiterate. This is when adding a second app alongside an existing app on a single app service plan which is the only app service plan in that subnet. The /28 subnet already exists and is a perfectly valid subnet size for our scenario. We aren't using multi-plan subnet join in this scenario - there is no second app service plan joining the subnet so it seems like the validation is incorrectly being applied.
This was via terraform with azurerm v3.116.0. Sometimes you can retry and it works fine - there are no validation errors from the API. Unfortunately I don't have the ARM API version to hand that the azurerm provider was hitting.
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I am happy to announce that we are introducing Multi-plan subnet join (MPSJ) in public preview.
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Virtual network integration in App Service requires one subnet per App Service plan integration today. If you are working with many App Service plans, managing the subnets can be an unnecessary administrative task. Therefore, I am happy to announce that as of November 1, 2024, multi plan subnet join (MPSJ) isgenerally available in all public regions.
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MPSJ reduces subnet sprawl when dealing with many apps across many plans and simplifies management of networking control such as Network Security Groups and Route tables across App Service plans.
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A subnet used for MPSJ must have an address space of at least /26 (64 addresses). With MPSJ you can join a virtual network/subnet in a different subscription, but all App Service plans joining a specific subnet must be in the same subscription.
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You may still want to use individual subnets if you plan to differentiate on Network Security Group configuration, NAT gateway or other subnet specific configurations.
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When using MPSJ you will need to pay extra attention to the subnet size. Each instance from each App Service plan requires one IP address. When scaling up/down, the IP address requirement is still doubled for that specific plan, and when scaling in it may take some time before the IP addresses are released. There is no limit on the number of App Service plans you can join with a single subnet, but you will be limited by the number of available IPs.
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In addition to the Azure portal, you can also use the Azure CLI or ARM to enable the feature. To connect using CLI you need the Azure Resource Id of the subnet:
Azure portal enables virtual network routing of application outbound internet traffic by default, but if you are joining using CLI, you either have to go to the Azure portal afterwards to configure that or you can run this script:
If you have any questions or feedback, please leave a comment below.
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Virtual network integration in App Service requires one subnet per App Service plan integration today. If you are working with many App Service plans, managing the subnets can be an unnecessary administrative task. Therefore, I am happy to announce that as of November 1, 2024, multi plan subnet join (MPSJ) isgenerally available in all public regions.
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MPSJ reduces subnet sprawl when dealing with many apps across many plans and simplifies management of networking control such as Network Security Groups and Route tables across App Service plans.
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A subnet used for MPSJ must have an address space of at least /26 (64 addresses). With MPSJ you can join a virtual network/subnet in a different subscription, but all App Service plans joining a specific subnet must be in the same subscription.
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You may still want to use individual subnets if you plan to differentiate on Network Security Group configuration, NAT gateway or other subnet specific configurations.
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When using MPSJ you will need to pay extra attention to the subnet size. Each instance from each App Service plan requires one IP address. When scaling up/down, the IP address requirement is still doubled for that specific plan, and when scaling in it may take some time before the IP addresses are released. There is no limit on the number of App Service plans you can join with a single subnet, but you will be limited by the number of available IPs.
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In addition to the Azure portal, you can also use the Azure CLI or ARM to enable the feature. To connect using CLI you need the Azure Resource Id of the subnet:
Azure portal enables virtual network routing of application outbound internet traffic by default, but if you are joining using CLI, you either have to go to the Azure portal afterwards to configure that or you can run this script:
I am happy to announce that we are introducing Multi-plan subnet join (MPSJ) in public preview.
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Hi Jordan! I have tried to join two app service plans (WS1) to the same subnet, but when i diagnose my logic apps I get the following error: Current App Service Plan is not the owner of the subnet's ServiceAssociationLink. And: Multiple App Service Plan(s) are connected to the same subnet
The Logic Apps that we use seem to work, should I ignore these errors, or have I done something wrong?
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Can you explain what you mean by diagnose and where you're seeing that error?
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You should be able to safely ignore it assuming it is not blocking anything for you, but I would like to let the team know so we can prevent others from getting confused as well. We can only have 1 ServiceAssociationLink (SAL) on a subnet, so it goes to the first App Service plan that is joined. All subsequent plans inherit that same SAL, so that's all that error is saying.
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Thanks for the reply!
If I go into the Logic App that is connected to a ASP that is sharing a subnet and select Diagnose and solve problems and then select Networking i get those errors:
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Can we extend the existing app service plan which are integrated with Vnet subnet with more App service plan ?
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Just to clarify, are you asking if you can scale up (add more instances) to an existing App Service plan that is already vnet integrated? The answer to that is yes, just be aware of the available IPs.
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If this was not what you were asking, please let me know.
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Hi folks. We found a bug with the MPSJ subnet size validation which is the reason some of you are unable to use vnet integration even without MPSJ. We are discussing internally what we can do to mitigate this issue as quickly as possible. Will update shortly.
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Please see the note in the docs about the bug. Link provided below. We are working to address this as soon as possible. We've provided mitigations in the doc in the meantime. We appreciate the patience while we work through this.
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Hi jordanselig
I've had a read through the learn.microsoft link but the workarounds don't seem to b e relevant for the issues we're facing:
Before this change, we were able to deploy multi ASPs onto the same /28 subnet without issue. However, since the change, we're receiving an error if an ASP already exists. We are not using multi-plan subnet join in anyway at all.
Is there any workaround for this scenario at present? If not, do you have ETA for the fix yet? It's starting to have a bit of an impact on our deliverables.
Thanks!
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I have an issue where if I integrate multiple app services to the same subnet, it looks like it should be working, but it doesn't work correctly with NAT gateway assigned for outbound traffic. I would like to have all of my app services within an environment use the same subnet for VNET integration, and all of them use the same NAT gateway for outbound traffic. If I set it up this way, there are issues found in the diagnostic section where it says one of the app service plans on the subnet is the owner of the subnet. To get around this, I've had to make multiple subnets, and integrate each app with its own subnet. Then I'm able to use the same outbound NAT gateway for all of them.
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Our deployments started breaking this week with the error \"Minimum subnet size allowed for joining multiple App Service Plans to same subnet is /26, the subnet attempting to be joined is /27\" as well.
We are not using MPSJ. We just have a staging slot and a production slot for this app. When attempting to recreate the staging slot, we have started to get this error.
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Can you please file a support ticket for this? We need more info about your app to determine what the issue with your scenario is and can start an investigation once you file that ticket. The bug that we found might not be linked if your scenario turns out to be different. Thanks in advance.
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Thanks, jordanselig . Our issue was resolved. Our Terraform config was, in fact, specifying a subnet from a different plan, so I guess we were unwittingly using MPSJ without knowing about it. I'm assuming that the subnet size validation errors were enabled last week. We ended up correcting that app service to use the intended subnet.
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davidkarlsenjordanselig Yes, \"a subnet used for MPSJ must have an address space of at least /26\", but we're not using MPSJ so a /28 should still be an acceptable subnet size to use.
Or am I being too literal with this, and \"multi-plan subnet join\" actually applies to multiple apps on the same plan?
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davidkarlsen you're right. i missed the subnet size. we have validation in the create experience because we don't recommend using anything smaller than /26. so it's blocked during portal creates. however if the app already exists, we don't have this same subnet size validation in the vnet integration experience for existing apps.
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depends_on The announcement stated that a /26 or wider is needed:
\"A subnet used for MPSJ must have an address space of at least /26 (64 addresses). With MPSJ you can join a virtual network/subnet in a different subscription, but all App Service plans joining a specific subnet must be in the same subscription. \"
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depends_on it should work when creating new apps in the portal. i just attempted to repro on my side and am not getting any issues and the subnet I used already has 2 other plans associated with it. if you continue to get this error, I would recommend opening a support ticket so our team can have a closer look at what might be causing the problem with your experience.
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regarding the additional validation errors you are seeing, thanks for bringing that to our attention. i will investigate and see what's going on there.
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jordanseligAnother problem is that we see MPSJ validation errors when adding new apps to existing app service plans that already contain an app, when MPSJ isn't even in use.
This is the error: \"Minimum subnet size allowed for joining multiple App Service Plans to same subnet is /26, the subnet attempting to be joined is /28.\"
Just to reiterate. This is when adding a second app alongside an existing app on a single app service plan which is the only app service plan in that subnet. The /28 subnet already exists and is a perfectly valid subnet size for our scenario. We aren't using multi-plan subnet join in this scenario - there is no second app service plan joining the subnet so it seems like the validation is incorrectly being applied.
This was via terraform with azurerm v3.116.0. Sometimes you can retry and it works fine - there are no validation errors from the API. Unfortunately I don't have the ARM API version to hand that the azurerm provider was hitting.
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