Hello insiders, today we’re releasing build 80.0.361.5 to the Dev channel! This is the final build for major version 80, which means it’s also our next Beta channel candidate. This is also the final Dev channel update for the year; we don’t expect to publish anything more until January. However, we couldn’t leave you without some holiday treats, so here are all of the feature rollouts that have been recently completed for the Canary and Dev channels.
For our ARM enthusiasts, we’re bringing our native ARM64 builds to the Dev channel today! These builds have been in Canary for the last few weeks, and we’ve ironed out most of the major issues during that time. There’s still one known issue though: certain DRM video on some websites doesn’t play properly.
Finally, we’ve got three features to look for in upcoming builds.
One of them is what we’re calling the “pinning wizard”. It will occasionally pop up from your Task Bar and suggest top websites from your history to pin directly to the Task Bar as installed websites. It can also be used at any time from … > More tools.
For users of high contrast themes in Windows, Edge now supports high contrast themes as well! It will follow the theme you’ve chosen in the OS Settings and brings us back to parity with the support offered in Edge Legacy.
And for users of Immersive Reader (formerly known as Reading View), we’ve greatly expanded the number of color themes you can choose from. Many of these are specially designed to reduce eye strain and increase reading comprehension.
Before we get on with the rest of the features and additions that are worth mentioning this week, you should know that favorites sync is still disabled for the majority of users. This includes brand new machines you install Edge on, so if you’re setting up Edge for the first time and want access to your favorites, you’ll need to manually export your favorites to a file on a different machine and import them on the new one. We’re also working on a deduplication mechanism once favorites sync is re-enabled, which should prevent new duplicates from coming in as well as remove duplicates for users who have already had their favorites duplicated.
Added features:
Added support for Dolby Vision playback.
Enabled users of Windows Mixed Reality to view 360° videos on VR headsets.
Improved reliability:
Fixed a crash when opening certain PDFs.
Fixed an issue where clicking on the Feedback button crashes the browser.
Fixed a browser crash for users of Collections.
Fixed a crash when closing the browser.
Fixed an issue where typing passwords into password fields sometimes causes a tab crash.
Fixed a crash when playing the Surf game.
Fixed an issue where certain websites don’t load properly.
Fixed an issue where Netflix playback fails for certain videos with error D7381.
Changed behavior:
By request, favorites folders are now yellow.
Updated Adobe Flash to version 32.0.0.303.
Fixed an issue where PDFs that fail to save for some reason end up failing silently instead of showing an error to the user.
Fixed an issue where the font dropdown in Settings doesn’t work.
Fixed an issue where the search engine can’t be edited because the Save button doesn’t work.
Fixed an issue where the current display language can be removed from Edge even though it shouldn’t be.
Fixed an issue where Edge installations on Azure Active Directory domain-joined machines get signed into the wrong account on first run.
Fixed an issue where some webpages aren’t able to be translated, and instead show an error saying that the source language and target language are the same.
Fixed an issue where Learn More links clicked during the First Run Experience open in tabs hidden behind the FRE instead of in a dialog above it.
Fixed an issue where navigation to certain websites in IE mode sometimes fails.
Fixed an issue where adding an item to a Collection sometimes doesn’t load the image properly and instead shows the loading spinner forever.
Fixed an issue where pasting items from one Collection into another doesn’t paste them in the correct order.
Fixed an issue where dragging and dropping an image into a Collection sometimes results in the wrong link being saved.
Fixed an issue where feedback screenshots sometimes don’t work properly on Mac.
Fixed an issue where the keyboard shortcut for saving a PDF doesn’t work on Mac.
Fixed an issue where desktop notifications are broken on Windows Insider builds.
Fixed an issue where Edge sometimes fails to automatically update on Windows Insider builds.
Fixed an issue where uninstalling and reinstalling Edge sometimes results in it no longer being able to launch on Windows Insider builds.
Known issues:
Navigation in new tabs sometimes fails, either showing an error that the connection is closed, or crashing the tab. In some cases, subsequent navigations in the tab are okay.
After an initial fix for it recently, some users are still experiencing Edge windows becoming all black. UI popups like menus are not affected, and opening the Browser Task Manager (keyboard shortcut is shift+esc) and killing the GPU process fixes it.
Highlighting text in the address bar then clicking on webpages sometimes causes black-on-dark text when the browser is in Dark Theme.
The Settings page appears too big/zoomed in on certain machines.
Some users are still not seeing Collections being enabled by default on Canary and Dev. For users who want to try Collections, enabling the flag at edge://flags/#edge-collections should still work to turn on the feature.
There are some issues where users with multiple audio output devices sometimes don’t get any sound from Edge. In one case, Edge becomes muted in the Windows Volume Mixer and unmuting it fixes it. In another, restarting the browser fixes it.
At certain zoom levels, there is a noticeable line between the browser UI and the web contents.
Jumplist entries are not consistent between the Start Menu and the Task Bar for some users. We believe this is due to the shortcut on the Start Menu not getting migrated properly after an Edge update and are working on a fix. Additionally, after getting the update for the new icon, there are still places on the Start Menu, for example when searching, that still show the old icon. Other places like the Task Bar may be able to be fixed by un-pinning and then re-pinning any Edge shortcuts that already exist there.
Thank you for a great 2019 and for all of your help building both this community and the new Edge. We couldn’t have done it without you!
I like them to be yellow, because it is easy to distinguish among folders and bookmarks, just on the glimpse and it also visually similar to that of the windows file explorer.
josh_bodner Who knew the folder icons would be such a hot topic? When they were clear glyphs, you heard from all the people who wanted them yellow. Now that they're yellow, you hear from all the people who want them clear.
Yes, you could satisfy the tiny percentage of users who care by making it an option (perhaps under the Appearance settings). And if you did, well that would be cool—I'm not saying it wouldn't. But is it that important? Chrome has yellow folders. It's not an option and they're not asking anyone's opinion about it. And yet 60% of all web users are happy using Chrome; they take whatever Google gives them. Opera has clear folders and has about 1.5% market share (astonishingly, less than half that even of UWP Edge, which has yellow folders). Is there a causal relationship here? Obviously not. Very few users care (many probably don't even notice.) So why should Microsoft sweat over this?
Yes, crazy the amount of time and discussion this has had. Not only it is the familiar to Chrome, it is, also, the familiar, the norm for a long time for Windows, IE and Edge.
Yes, indeed, I, too, always find it comical when people seem want something, get it and then hear, oh no don't want that LOL. Come on folks make up your mind (just joking about). Anyway, the traditional colour and realism is just as fine as it's always been.
Drew1903 wrote: Yes, crazy the amount of time and discussion this has had. Not only it is the familiar to Chrome, it is, also, the familiar, the norm for a long time for Windows, IE and Edge.
Yes, indeed, I, too, always find it comical when people seem want something, get it and then hear, oh no don't want that LOL. Come on folks make up your mind (just joking about). Anyway, the traditional colour and realism is just as fine as it's always been.
We could always move on to other things...
Cheers, Drew
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I don't see how the difficulty and problems that people are experiencing seem funny to you and make you laugh!
Be sure that those that asked for it Are Not the ones that are now asking to revert it back the way it was before.
Nobody knew it would become a hot topic because they weren't planned nor supposed to be changed because of few people. there is no clear poll, no numbers, showing how many people actually want and how many people are against a change.
Don't confuse the numbers. Chrome might have 60% users but that doesn't mean all of them are happy about everything in the browser. huge part of that number is because of the Android OS and how Google chrome can't be uninstalled from the OS, only disabled.
josh_bodner I think the bug with bookmarks sync is back. I cannot remove any bookmarks because they are shortly restored. It's pretty annoying to tell the the truth.
I thing the bug with bookmarks sync is back. I cannot remove any bookmarks because they are shortly restored. It's pretty annoying to tell the the truth.
Yesterday I tried the bookmark syncing between 2 different Edge version, both logged in to the same personal Microsoft account on Windows 10 latest version.
Edge insider canary Version 81.0.381.0 (Official build) canary (64-bit)
Edge stable Version 79.0.309.56 (Official build) (64-bit)
so I kept both of the browsers open, side by side. I tried deleting a bookmark/favorite in canary and after 3 seconds I could see the same bookmark was deleted from the stable version.
next thing I tried deleting a bookmark in stable version and after 3 seconds the same bookmark disappeared from the canary version.
I also tried deleting folders, it took longer to sync. my folder had around 100 bookmark entries in it.
but I noticed a strange behavior. when I deleted my folder containing 100 bookmarks in either of the Edge versions, I couldn't keep the folder drop down menu open in the other version.
by drop down menu, I am referring to the drop down menu that appears when you click on a bookmark folder on the bookmark bar in Edge browser.
the reason why I couldn't keep that drop down menu open was that, when I deleted the whole folder in one Edge browser instance, it was constantly syncing and deleting the bookmarks inside that folder, one by one, and on the other Edge instance, i could see that the bookmarks are being disappeared one by one, so that was the reason I couldn't keep the bookmark folder drop down menu open. because Edge needed to close it in order to sync the contents inside the folder. I hope this changes so it won't be necessary anymore for the drop down menu to be closed every time.
If you have two instances of the browser open, then yes, if I remove sth it disappears from the other window too. The problem is however when I close the browser, and reopen it. Shortly after all of the bookmarks are back. 😕 It's driving me crazy.
I've sent 3-4 Smiley reports about this bug, but thought I'd post it here, too, in case anyone else has experienced this.
A very unusual bug where page contents, after being rendered, aren't cached. So if you scroll too fast, the entire page is re-drawn as you scroll (!). Especially noticeable on longer pages. Have not seen this before, until this most recent build.
To a normal user, it just looks/feels like an ancient 1990s browser that can't keep up with modern websites. It's often fixable with a restart, but that gets old.
So if you scroll too fast, the entire page is re-drawn as you scroll (!).
ikjadoon Scrolling is one of the areas that we know Chromium was less smooth compared to Edge Legacy, and while we've started making investments in this area, there's still a lot of work we want to do. I'd be very curious if you can get the same thing to happen in Chrome, since it's very likely we're inheriting this from them.
Edge Dev (Chromium 80.0.361.5/9): scroll repaint bug
Chrome Dev (Chromium 81.x.x.x): no bug
Legacy Edge Stable (44.18362.449.0): no bug
Firefox Stable (71.0): no bug
Internet Explorer Stable (11.535.18362.0): no bug
The bug has been fixed in Chrome Dev (81). Once Edge Chromium stable launches, I imagine it'll be Stable 79 / Beta 80 / Dev 81 / Canary 82. For the beta testers, maybe the Beta 80 build will be updated so it doesn't exhibit the same bug from our Dev 80 build.
josh_bodner I notice that high GPU usage occurs when the download bar is on in Dev 80.0.361.9. I need to close the download bar and then the GPU usage is back to normal.
I notice that high GPU usage occurs when the download bar is on in Dev 80.0.361.9. I need to close the download bar and then the GPU usage is back to normal.
sdmmr does this affect Canary as well, or just Dev? I can't get this behavior to occur in any channel on my own machines, so I suspect it may be something a little more specific to your setup.
josh_bodner I do not have Canary so I don't know. I tried in Beta and it does not occur.
I tried Guest Profile and a new Profile in Dev and the issue still occurs. I sent a Smiley Feedback with attachments and diagnostics and hope that it can help you.
Another issue is saving a webpage as a "Single File" will save as ".html" instead of ".mhtml" when using provided filename without any changing.
I'm still getting the issue with the browser locking up due to high GPU usage. Closing it via the task manager does fix it temporarily. Was this issue supposed to be fixed already? Or is it on the list of things to do? v80.0.361.9
Must have been the updates related to fav syncing..they said earlier that the changes had been pushed to canary but would be gradually pushed to Dev too.
"- Added support for Dolby Vision playback. - Enabled users of Windows Mixed Reality to view 360° videos on VR headsets."
Great! 👍🏼
"By request, favorites folders are now yellow."
Makes sense with the correct design, where "hollow" folders is harder to see. This change creates more contrast and it was immediately easier to "read" what was folder and what was folder name.
Thank YOU for a super productive year for Edge in in 2019 since Build you've ready picked up the pace and clear communication is better than ever. The Windows Insider Team should take a few pages from your book 🙂 (Not the e-mails for feedback, though )
Merry Christmas to you too and Happy early holidays ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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Hello insiders, today we’re releasing build 80.0.361.5 to the Dev channel! This is the final build for major version 80, which means it’s also our next Beta channel candidate. This is also the final Dev channel update for the year; we don’t expect to publish anything more until January. However, we couldn’t leave you without some holiday treats, so here are all of the feature rollouts that have been recently completed for the Canary and Dev channels.
For our ARM enthusiasts, we’re bringing our native ARM64 builds to the Dev channel today! These builds have been in Canary for the last few weeks, and we’ve ironed out most of the major issues during that time. There’s still one known issue though: certain DRM video on some websites doesn’t play properly.
Finally, we’ve got three features to look for in upcoming builds.
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One of them is what we’re calling the “pinning wizard”. It will occasionally pop up from your Task Bar and suggest top websites from your history to pin directly to the Task Bar as installed websites. It can also be used at any time from … > More tools.
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For users of high contrast themes in Windows, Edge now supports high contrast themes as well! It will follow the theme you’ve chosen in the OS Settings and brings us back to parity with the support offered in Edge Legacy.
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And for users of Immersive Reader (formerly known as Reading View), we’ve greatly expanded the number of color themes you can choose from. Many of these are specially designed to reduce eye strain and increase reading comprehension.
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Before we get on with the rest of the features and additions that are worth mentioning this week, you should know that favorites sync is still disabled for the majority of users. This includes brand new machines you install Edge on, so if you’re setting up Edge for the first time and want access to your favorites, you’ll need to manually export your favorites to a file on a different machine and import them on the new one. We’re also working on a deduplication mechanism once favorites sync is re-enabled, which should prevent new duplicates from coming in as well as remove duplicates for users who have already had their favorites duplicated.
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Added features:
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Added support for Dolby Vision playback.
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Enabled users of Windows Mixed Reality to view 360° videos on VR headsets.
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Improved reliability:
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Fixed a crash when opening certain PDFs.
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Fixed an issue where clicking on the Feedback button crashes the browser.
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Fixed a browser crash for users of Collections.
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Fixed a crash when closing the browser.
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Fixed an issue where typing passwords into password fields sometimes causes a tab crash.
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Fixed a crash when playing the Surf game.
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Fixed an issue where certain websites don’t load properly.
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Fixed an issue where Netflix playback fails for certain videos with error D7381.
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By request, favorites folders are now yellow.
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Updated Adobe Flash to version 32.0.0.303.
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Fixed an issue where PDFs that fail to save for some reason end up failing silently instead of showing an error to the user.
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Fixed an issue where the font dropdown in Settings doesn’t work.
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Fixed an issue where the search engine can’t be edited because the Save button doesn’t work.
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Fixed an issue where the current display language can be removed from Edge even though it shouldn’t be.
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Fixed an issue where Edge installations on Azure Active Directory domain-joined machines get signed into the wrong account on first run.
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Fixed an issue where some webpages aren’t able to be translated, and instead show an error saying that the source language and target language are the same.
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Fixed an issue where Learn More links clicked during the First Run Experience open in tabs hidden behind the FRE instead of in a dialog above it.
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Fixed an issue where navigation to certain websites in IE mode sometimes fails.
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Fixed an issue where adding an item to a Collection sometimes doesn’t load the image properly and instead shows the loading spinner forever.
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Fixed an issue where pasting items from one Collection into another doesn’t paste them in the correct order.
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Fixed an issue where dragging and dropping an image into a Collection sometimes results in the wrong link being saved.
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Fixed an issue where feedback screenshots sometimes don’t work properly on Mac.
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Fixed an issue where the keyboard shortcut for saving a PDF doesn’t work on Mac.
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Fixed an issue where desktop notifications are broken on Windows Insider builds.
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Fixed an issue where Edge sometimes fails to automatically update on Windows Insider builds.
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Fixed an issue where uninstalling and reinstalling Edge sometimes results in it no longer being able to launch on Windows Insider builds.
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Thank you for a great 2019 and for all of your help building both this community and the new Edge. We couldn’t have done it without you!
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Hello insiders, today we’re releasing build 80.0.361.5 to the Dev channel! This is the final build for major version 80, which means it’s also our next Beta channel candidate. This is also the final Dev channel update for the year; we don’t expect to publish anything more until January. However, we couldn’t leave you without some holiday treats, so here are all of the feature rollouts that have been recently completed for the Canary and Dev channels.
For our ARM enthusiasts, we’re bringing our native ARM64 builds to the Dev channel today! These builds have been in Canary for the last few weeks, and we’ve ironed out most of the major issues during that time. There’s still one known issue though: certain DRM video on some websites doesn’t play properly.
Finally, we’ve got three features to look for in upcoming builds.
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One of them is what we’re calling the “pinning wizard”. It will occasionally pop up from your Task Bar and suggest top websites from your history to pin directly to the Task Bar as installed websites. It can also be used at any time from … > More tools.
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For users of high contrast themes in Windows, Edge now supports high contrast themes as well! It will follow the theme you’ve chosen in the OS Settings and brings us back to parity with the support offered in Edge Legacy.
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And for users of Immersive Reader (formerly known as Reading View), we’ve greatly expanded the number of color themes you can choose from. Many of these are specially designed to reduce eye strain and increase reading comprehension.
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Before we get on with the rest of the features and additions that are worth mentioning this week, you should know that favorites sync is still disabled for the majority of users. This includes brand new machines you install Edge on, so if you’re setting up Edge for the first time and want access to your favorites, you’ll need to manually export your favorites to a file on a different machine and import them on the new one. We’re also working on a deduplication mechanism once favorites sync is re-enabled, which should prevent new duplicates from coming in as well as remove duplicates for users who have already had their favorites duplicated.
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Added support for Dolby Vision playback.
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Enabled users of Windows Mixed Reality to view 360° videos on VR headsets.
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Improved reliability:
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Fixed a crash when opening certain PDFs.
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Fixed an issue where clicking on the Feedback button crashes the browser.
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Fixed a browser crash for users of Collections.
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Fixed a crash when closing the browser.
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Fixed an issue where typing passwords into password fields sometimes causes a tab crash.
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Fixed a crash when playing the Surf game.
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Fixed an issue where certain websites don’t load properly.
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Fixed an issue where Netflix playback fails for certain videos with error D7381.
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Changed behavior:
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By request, favorites folders are now yellow.
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Updated Adobe Flash to version 32.0.0.303.
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Fixed an issue where PDFs that fail to save for some reason end up failing silently instead of showing an error to the user.
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Fixed an issue where the font dropdown in Settings doesn’t work.
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Fixed an issue where the search engine can’t be edited because the Save button doesn’t work.
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Fixed an issue where the current display language can be removed from Edge even though it shouldn’t be.
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Fixed an issue where Edge installations on Azure Active Directory domain-joined machines get signed into the wrong account on first run.
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Fixed an issue where some webpages aren’t able to be translated, and instead show an error saying that the source language and target language are the same.
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Fixed an issue where Learn More links clicked during the First Run Experience open in tabs hidden behind the FRE instead of in a dialog above it.
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Fixed an issue where navigation to certain websites in IE mode sometimes fails.
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Fixed an issue where adding an item to a Collection sometimes doesn’t load the image properly and instead shows the loading spinner forever.
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Fixed an issue where pasting items from one Collection into another doesn’t paste them in the correct order.
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Fixed an issue where dragging and dropping an image into a Collection sometimes results in the wrong link being saved.
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Fixed an issue where feedback screenshots sometimes don’t work properly on Mac.
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Fixed an issue where the keyboard shortcut for saving a PDF doesn’t work on Mac.
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Fixed an issue where desktop notifications are broken on Windows Insider builds.
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Fixed an issue where Edge sometimes fails to automatically update on Windows Insider builds.
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Fixed an issue where uninstalling and reinstalling Edge sometimes results in it no longer being able to launch on Windows Insider builds.
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Known issues:
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Navigation in new tabs sometimes fails, either showing an error that the connection is closed, or crashing the tab. In some cases, subsequent navigations in the tab are okay.
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After an initial fix for it recently, some users are still experiencing Edge windows becoming all black. UI popups like menus are not affected, and opening the Browser Task Manager (keyboard shortcut is shift+esc) and killing the GPU process fixes it.
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Highlighting text in the address bar then clicking on webpages sometimes causes black-on-dark text when the browser is in Dark Theme.
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The Settings page appears too big/zoomed in on certain machines.
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Some users are still not seeing Collections being enabled by default on Canary and Dev. For users who want to try Collections, enabling the flag at edge://flags/#edge-collections should still work to turn on the feature.
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There are some issues where users with multiple audio output devices sometimes don’t get any sound from Edge. In one case, Edge becomes muted in the Windows Volume Mixer and unmuting it fixes it. In another, restarting the browser fixes it.
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At certain zoom levels, there is a noticeable line between the browser UI and the web contents.
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Jumplist entries are not consistent between the Start Menu and the Task Bar for some users. We believe this is due to the shortcut on the Start Menu not getting migrated properly after an Edge update and are working on a fix. Additionally, after getting the update for the new icon, there are still places on the Start Menu, for example when searching, that still show the old icon. Other places like the Task Bar may be able to be fixed by un-pinning and then re-pinning any Edge shortcuts that already exist there.
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Thank you for a great 2019 and for all of your help building both this community and the new Edge. We couldn’t have done it without you!
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Plus, it's not dull, bland and (just) 'symbolic'. Looks nice.
Cheers, Drew
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josh_bodner Who knew the folder icons would be such a hot topic? When they were clear glyphs, you heard from all the people who wanted them yellow. Now that they're yellow, you hear from all the people who want them clear.
Yes, you could satisfy the tiny percentage of users who care by making it an option (perhaps under the Appearance settings). And if you did, well that would be cool—I'm not saying it wouldn't. But is it that important? Chrome has yellow folders. It's not an option and they're not asking anyone's opinion about it. And yet 60% of all web users are happy using Chrome; they take whatever Google gives them. Opera has clear folders and has about 1.5% market share (astonishingly, less than half that even of UWP Edge, which has yellow folders). Is there a causal relationship here? Obviously not. Very few users care (many probably don't even notice.) So why should Microsoft sweat over this?
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Yes, crazy the amount of time and discussion this has had. Not only it is the familiar to Chrome, it is, also, the familiar, the norm for a long time for Windows, IE and Edge.
Yes, indeed, I, too, always find it comical when people seem want something, get it and then hear, oh no don't want that LOL. Come on folks make up your mind (just joking about). Anyway, the traditional colour and realism is just as fine as it's always been.
We could always move on to other things...
Cheers, Drew
Sent from Windows Mobile","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2020-01-05T13:07:41.290-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-01-05T13:07:41.290-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2823},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:MicrosoftEdgeInsider/category:products-services/category:communities/community:gxcuf89792board:EdgeInsiderDiscussions/message:1070730/message:1091554","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMXwyLjF8aXwxfDEzMjowfGludCwxMDkxNTU1LDEwOTE1NTU","node":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:1091555"}}]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1091555":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1091555","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1091555":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:310193"},"id":"message:1091555","revisionNum":1,"uid":1091555,"depth":3,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:EdgeInsiderDiscussions"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:1091554"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1070730"},"subject":"Re: Dev channel update to 80.0.361.5 is live","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1091555"},"body":"
Drew1903 wrote: Yes, crazy the amount of time and discussion this has had. Not only it is the familiar to Chrome, it is, also, the familiar, the norm for a long time for Windows, IE and Edge.
Yes, indeed, I, too, always find it comical when people seem want something, get it and then hear, oh no don't want that LOL. Come on folks make up your mind (just joking about). Anyway, the traditional colour and realism is just as fine as it's always been.
We could always move on to other things...
Cheers, Drew
Sent from Windows Mobile
I don't see how the difficulty and problems that people are experiencing seem funny to you and make you laugh!
Be sure that those that asked for it Are Not the ones that are now asking to revert it back the way it was before.
Sent from Android Mobile
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Don't confuse the numbers. Chrome might have 60% users but that doesn't mean all of them are happy about everything in the browser. huge part of that number is because of the Android OS and how Google chrome can't be uninstalled from the OS, only disabled.
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Few minutes ago I removed most of my favorites. 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Havret Another issue...it has brought back Favorites I deleted/removed some months back! This really not good at all.
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josh_bodner I think the bug with bookmarks sync is back. I cannot remove any bookmarks because they are shortly restored. It's pretty annoying to tell the the truth.
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I thing the bug with bookmarks sync is back. I cannot remove any bookmarks because they are shortly restored. It's pretty annoying to tell the the truth.
Yesterday I tried the bookmark syncing between 2 different Edge version, both logged in to the same personal Microsoft account on Windows 10 latest version.
Edge insider canary Version 81.0.381.0 (Official build) canary (64-bit)
Edge stable Version 79.0.309.56 (Official build) (64-bit)
so I kept both of the browsers open, side by side. I tried deleting a bookmark/favorite in canary and after 3 seconds I could see the same bookmark was deleted from the stable version.
next thing I tried deleting a bookmark in stable version and after 3 seconds the same bookmark disappeared from the canary version.
I also tried deleting folders, it took longer to sync. my folder had around 100 bookmark entries in it.
but I noticed a strange behavior. when I deleted my folder containing 100 bookmarks in either of the Edge versions, I couldn't keep the folder drop down menu open in the other version.
by drop down menu, I am referring to the drop down menu that appears when you click on a bookmark folder on the bookmark bar in Edge browser.
the reason why I couldn't keep that drop down menu open was that, when I deleted the whole folder in one Edge browser instance, it was constantly syncing and deleting the bookmarks inside that folder, one by one, and on the other Edge instance, i could see that the bookmarks are being disappeared one by one, so that was the reason I couldn't keep the bookmark folder drop down menu open. because Edge needed to close it in order to sync the contents inside the folder. I hope this changes so it won't be necessary anymore for the drop down menu to be closed every time.
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If you have two instances of the browser open, then yes, if I remove sth it disappears from the other window too. The problem is however when I close the browser, and reopen it. Shortly after all of the bookmarks are back. 😕 It's driving me crazy.
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I've sent 3-4 Smiley reports about this bug, but thought I'd post it here, too, in case anyone else has experienced this.
A very unusual bug where page contents, after being rendered, aren't cached. So if you scroll too fast, the entire page is re-drawn as you scroll (!). Especially noticeable on longer pages. Have not seen this before, until this most recent build.
To a normal user, it just looks/feels like an ancient 1990s browser that can't keep up with modern websites. It's often fixable with a restart, but that gets old.
i5-8600K (monitor above is powered by the UHD 630 iGPU; driver 26.20.100.7584)
32 GB DDR4-3200
Samsung 960 EVO 250 GB
1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz
Windows 10 Pro x64 1909 (18363.535)
What I've tried:
Restarting does fix it for a few minutes.
Turning off hardware acceleration reduces its severity, but it's still present.
Reproducible on any long page.
Reproducible in inPrivate windows.
I believe this latest build has been the only build I've experienced it.
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So if you scroll too fast, the entire page is re-drawn as you scroll (!).
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ikjadoon Scrolling is one of the areas that we know Chromium was less smooth compared to Edge Legacy, and while we've started making investments in this area, there's still a lot of work we want to do. I'd be very curious if you can get the same thing to happen in Chrome, since it's very likely we're inheriting this from them.
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josh_bodner Here's what I've found. You're exactly right, inherited from Chromium Beta 80.0.3xxxx.x builds.
Chrome Stable (Chromium 79.0.3945.88): no bug
Edge Dev (prior Chromium 80.0.355.1): no bug (IIRC)
Edge Dev (Chromium 80.0.361.5/9): scroll repaint bug
Chrome Dev (Chromium 81.x.x.x): no bug
Legacy Edge Stable (44.18362.449.0): no bug
Firefox Stable (71.0): no bug
Internet Explorer Stable (11.535.18362.0): no bug
The bug has been fixed in Chrome Dev (81). Once Edge Chromium stable launches, I imagine it'll be Stable 79 / Beta 80 / Dev 81 / Canary 82. For the beta testers, maybe the Beta 80 build will be updated so it doesn't exhibit the same bug from our Dev 80 build.
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josh_bodner I notice that high GPU usage occurs when the download bar is on in Dev 80.0.361.9. I need to close the download bar and then the GPU usage is back to normal.
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I notice that high GPU usage occurs when the download bar is on in Dev 80.0.361.9. I need to close the download bar and then the GPU usage is back to normal.
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sdmmr does this affect Canary as well, or just Dev? I can't get this behavior to occur in any channel on my own machines, so I suspect it may be something a little more specific to your setup.
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josh_bodner I do not have Canary so I don't know. I tried in Beta and it does not occur.
I tried Guest Profile and a new Profile in Dev and the issue still occurs. I sent a Smiley Feedback with attachments and diagnostics and hope that it can help you.
Another issue is saving a webpage as a \"Single File\" will save as \".html\" instead of \".mhtml\" when using provided filename without any changing.
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All of my PC's show Dev 80.0.361.9","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"55","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2019-12-22T10:25:47.708-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-12-22T10:25:47.708-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2427},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:MicrosoftEdgeInsider/category:products-services/category:communities/community:gxcuf89792board:EdgeInsiderDiscussions/message:1070730/message:1077900","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMXwyLjF8aXwzfDEzMjowfGludCwxMDc3OTY2LDEwNzc5NjY","node":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:1077966"}}]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1077966":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1077966","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1077966":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:403937"},"id":"message:1077966","revisionNum":1,"uid":1077966,"depth":2,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:EdgeInsiderDiscussions"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:1077900"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1070730"},"subject":"Re: Dev channel update to 80.0.361.5 is live","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1077966"},"body":"I'm still getting the issue with the browser locking up due to high GPU usage. Closing it via the task manager does fix it temporarily. Was this issue supposed to be fixed already? 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I guess something needed changing: all of my systems have, within the past day or two, been updated to 80.0.361.9.
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\"- Added support for Dolby Vision playback. - Enabled users of Windows Mixed Reality to view 360° videos on VR headsets.\"
Great! 👍🏼
\"By request, favorites folders are now yellow.\"
Makes sense with the correct design, where \"hollow\" folders is harder to see. This change creates more contrast and it was immediately easier to \"read\" what was folder and what was folder name.
Thank YOU for a super productive year for Edge in in 2019 since Build you've ready picked up the pace and clear communication is better than ever. The Windows Insider Team should take a few pages from your book 🙂 (Not the e-mails for feedback, though )
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Oh ... Merry Christmas to all and to all a good year to come.
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