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Hello,
I have machines that will not be receiving BIOS updates from the OEM (Dell).
They successfully installed the new certs, but did not apply them - throwing 1803/1801 errors. Will the 1803 error (PK-signed KEK not found) possibly be resolved thru Windows Update, or will machines affected by this simply be unable to apply/utilize the 2023 certs?
- mihiMar 13, 2026Brass Contributor
If Dell won't provide a signed KEK update to Microsoft for those devices (probably because they cannot), Windows will not be able to update the KEK.
In my experience, Dell devices often have an option in their firmware setup to enroll a DB or KEK certificate from an USB key manually. You can try by putting
https://github.com/microsoft/secureboot_objects/blob/main/PreSignedObjects/KEK/Certificates/microsoft%20corporation%20kek%202k%20ca%202023.der on a FAT32 formatted USB key and trying to import it as KEK. This should make the secure boot update continue and complete successfully.
Still, from an economic standpoint, you have to decide whether spending a few minutes on each device manually is worth the effort or whether you would be better off replacing the devices.
- DJ8014AMar 13, 2026Copper Contributor
Thank you for the response and giving me something to try. I have about a dozen machines that will probably need this workaround (hope it works). So, not hundreds or thousands. But unlike a general user's 4-core Optiplex from 10+ years ago, these are workstations that have 12 or 14 cores. Are they as powerful as an equivalent new machine? No, but they still do what we need them to do, and do it pretty well. So, a few minutes, assuming the fix works, is well worth my time. Thanks again. I'll report back when I've had a chance to try.
- mihiMar 14, 2026Brass Contributor
In case that option is not there, feel free to take and share photos of which Secure Boot options are there, maybe there is another way we can get that KEK in.
And in general, before messing with Secure Boot options, it is a good idea to suspend BitLocker (if in use).
- DJ8014AMar 13, 2026Copper Contributor
Jason_Sandys could you answer this question?
- Arden_WhiteMar 13, 2026
Microsoft
DJ8014A I can see that's a Dell device. It's difficult to determine which one it is. Would you be willing to share the model name/number of the device?
- DJ8014AMar 13, 2026Copper Contributor
It's a T5610. We have a T5810 with the same issue. As noted above, I am aware that Dell will not be issuing new BIOS updates for these machines. I'm still hoping they will not be relegated to e-waste.