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- acamachorOccasional Reader
Hello, there is a way to force the download of the new CA2023 certificate in Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows Server 2016, Windows Server 2019 and Windows Server 2022? I dind't find a way to force them? Thanks.
- mihiBrass Contributor
The AvailableUpdates registry key and the scheduled task should work the same way as on client machines.
On 2012R2 you will need ESU updates since the July 2025 update is required (and the November 2025 update is recommended to avoid compatibliity issues) and 2012R2 won't receive those without ESU. All the other mentioned server OSes should still be in support so you can have them fully updated without requiring ESU.
What happens when you try to use the AvailableUpdates registry key? Will it jump back to zero or 0x4000, and are there any events logged in system event log?
- Joe_FriedelBrass Contributor
Since devices are getting the latest high confidence database with monthly cumulative updates which they use to determine if they should automatically initiate the certificate update process, what exactly is the point of the Configure Microsoft Update Managed Opt In setting? The description makes it sound like this setting is going to do what the high confidence process is already doing and I'm not seeing that setting change behavior on my devices.
- mihiBrass Contributor
You should not confuse the Controlled Feature Rollout (CFR) process with the High Confidence rollout via latest cumulative update (LCU) process. The CFR process generally only targets devices that show no signs of being managed (e.g. not joined to a Windows domain) and that have telemetry setting sufficiently high, and that can actually communicate with Microsoft servers.
The CFR process will pick random members of each Bucket, and try to install the update on them even if they are not High Confidence yet, in the expectation that if anything goes horribly wrongâ„¢, they will quickly notice via telemetry. If first signs look good, they will push it to a larger group (some percent) of that Bucket, and if the telemetry is positive, it will be (a) pushed to all devices of that Bucket via CFR and (b) included into next monthly update. (How exactly the CFR process picks the initial candidates is not published as far as I know, but I assume there will be some more factors, like whether the user is enrolled to Windows Insider program and/or how often the machine is used, to keep the disruption to normal customers low and the telemetry quality high).
Therefore, CFR process will reach devices faster than LCU process, at the expense that you act as Guinea Pigs for Microsoft.
By default, only non-managed devices take part in CFR process; by setting this registry key, you can basically offer your machines to be Guinea Pigs for Microsoft even if they are managed.
- RichP1930Brass Contributor
We have Autopatch enabled on our devices and the April update has already been deployed. yet autopatch still reports a large qty of devices needing the cert update. Is autopatch going to push those updates or do we need to configure a setting?
- mihiBrass Contributor
Not using Autopatch myself, but I do not think Autopatch will push Secure Boot updates to devices that are not yet marked High Confidence in any way, so if you want the rate to go up, you'd manually need to trigger the updates (or opt into CFR process via Microsoft Managed Opt In) via one of the supported methods (Intune, WinCS, Group Policy, Registry).
- SofienAzriOccasional Reader
Hi,
We have already completed the BIOS update roll-out across all PC models in our environment.
In parallel, we are deploying the Secure Boot CA 2023 certificate upgrade using a Microsoft Intune configuration profile. Due to the very slow adoption rate observed during monitoring—both through Intune policy status and Secure Boot compliance reports—we have also introduced a remediation script to support the deployment.
Despite these efforts, the increase in deployed devices remains limited. This behavior may be related to policy application constraints or required system restarts. According to several references, the Secure Boot update process may require up to two device restarts before the changes are fully applied and reported.
Questions:
1- what is the Best way to complete the task, is to go with Registry settings and schedule the task, or with Config profile over Microsoft Intune?
2- Will the May Patch Tuesday update scheduled for May 12 guarantee a resolution of this issue and help increase the deployment and compliance numbers?- mihiBrass Contributor
- Regardless which way you are choosing (Intune, Group Policy, manual), each way will ultimately result in setting the same registry key. So there should not be any "Best way" for triggering the job. Probably the "Best way" is to actually monitor the reasons why adoption rate is not going up (e.g. errors in event log, if any) to determine whether the devices do not get compliant due to hardware incompatibilities or due to a missing restart)
- The May Patch Tuesday will obviously provide one more chance for a restart, but I doubt it will guarantee resolution of anything. In case the devices have a known hardware issue (also present in the latest firmware version) preventing the update running automatically, this will not "magically" make the updates work. But there should be a sufficient amount of error information in the event log to diagnose this and to decide whether any actions other than waiting are needed.
- ArturCzepukojcCopper Contributor
Will the expired Secure Boot certificates affect Intune compliance policy "Secure Boot - Required"? Can devices start failing on it?
- NaotsuguOccasional Reader
Hi,
Could you please confirm if my understanding of KEK's update logic is correct?
- In a WSUS environment (IT management environment):
(1) Automatic (If High Confidence applies):
When Windows Update (LCU) is installed via WSUS, the OS determines its own hardware.
If it matches the High Confidence Database (and the administrator has not opted out), the OS automatically triggers the Secure Boot update.
(2) Manual (Using AvailableUpdates):
If it does not match High Confidence (or if waiting for automatic determination is not possible), after installing Windows Update (LCU) via WSUS and completing the file placement, the administrator manually sets AvailableUpdates to 0x5944 to forcibly trigger the update.
- For non-WSUS environments (Microsoft managed environments):
(1) Automatic (Basic):
When a regular Windows Update (LCU) is installed, Secure Boot updates are automatically triggered when the machine becomes eligible for the High Confidence Database.
(2) Manual (Exception):
Even in non-WSUS environments, if you absolutely want to apply the update immediately without waiting for automatic application (High Confidence certification), it is technically possible to force a trigger by setting the AvailableUpdates registry to 0x5944 with administrative privileges.
- mihiBrass Contributor
As a very general summary, this is roughly correct.
- This does not only refer to the KEK update, but updates of all the Secure Boot keys. For KEK, there also needs to be a signature by the vendor of your firmware (its Platform Key) submitted to Microsoft so that the KEK can be updated.
- Whether a device is considered managed or not depends not only on whether WSUS is used, but also whether the device is domain-joined and whether telemetry is enabled and actually usable, and maybe other factors
- All the mentioned registry options (both for opting in via Available updates and for opting out) are available on all devices, managed or not
- The main difference between managed and unmanaged devices is that unmanaged devices can also receive their update via Controlled Feature Rollout (if they are lucky/unlucky and telemetry suggests that it should be tried), resulting in potentially being updated before the LCU that sets them to high confidence reaches them. However, there is no way to enforce or trigger whether you will be Chosen a Guinea Pig for Microsoft or not (if you are an unmanaged device)
- In case Microsoft considers your device managed, but you have telemetry enabled and explicitly want your device to be used as a Guinea Pig, you can set MicrosoftUpdateManagedOptIn registry key. This only has an effect if your device is considered managed.
- NaotsuguOccasional Reader
Thank you for your answer, mihi.
I understand it very well now.
- arch1279Copper Contributor
is VM snapshots or checkpoints can restore the VMs OS if it can't boot during or after the secure boot cert update? full VM back up is needed as restoration steps?
- mihiBrass Contributor
Your question boils down to whether a VM snapshot will include a copy of the UEFI variables and/or UEFI NVRAM. I cannot answer this question for all available virtualization solutions, but for those I have been using (Hyper-V, Virt-ualBox, and QEMU/KVM based ones like Proxmox) I can confirm that at least in their latest version, the VM snapshot includes all of this, so it is sufficient to create a VM snapshot to protect against incorrect Secure Boot configuration changes.
That being said, I don't know of any likely scenario where a Secure Boot certificate update can screw your VM so badly that you need to revert to a previous snapshot. In case you use BitLocker in the VM, make sure to have your Recovery Key handy just in case.
(There used to be an older version of Vir-tualBox where not all UEFI variables - like dual-boot configurations - were part of the snapshot, which could cause confusion when restoring snapshots after an OS install - not only related to Secure Boot settings. But I believe this was before Vir-tualBox supported Secure Boot for VMs).
[Ouch, naming of competitor products is not allowed in this community?]
- arch1279Copper Contributor
I am running legacy hyper V machine on Windows server 2012 R2 and guest VMs on server 2016 and 2019. DO i need to install secureboot 2023 cert on both hyper V and VMs? what happen if I dont update the secureboot cert to both ?
- mihiBrass Contributor
I assume all those machines have Secure Boot enabled? If not, there is no option nor need to update the secure boot certs.
If Secure Boot is enabled, not updating them (on both) will have the same effect as on any other (physical or virtual) machine: The bootloader will remain stuck on the June 2026 version and Secure boot blacklist will not get updated. So an attacker who gets admin access on either the host or the guests could install a bootkit on the (host or guest) machine they had access to once there is any public exploit for that bootloader or any other blacklisted bootloader. In any case the system will continue working and will still receive security updates for all other Windows components.
- arch1279Copper Contributor
thanks for the reply , yes its secure boot is enabled on however Hyper-V is still on unsupported OS server 2012 r2. is there way I can manually /offline install the new secureboot certificate without going to Windows update?
- CrisLugoBCopper Contributor
Hey, I came across this Dell Pro 16 Plus, that is missing the UEFICA2023Status registry key. It has the Task Scheduler and all other keys except that one. Should I move forward as normal or is there a scenario where another route is required in this case?
- mihiBrass Contributor
Let me guess, the device came with all the 2023 certificates from the factory already (Or it has been updated before the OS got reinstalled)? In that case it can happen that the key has not been created at all. I cannot tell what exactly causes the key not being created, but everything is fine if the certificates are there.
- CrisLugoBCopper Contributor
I checked to see if Event 1808 existed on the system and it did not. Is there another way to check and confirm if the all the 2023 certificates are already installed in the system?
- gndmnlCopper Contributor
hi,
i work for a public school department. we have a lot of devices (from pretty old to brand new). our resources are limited so we use wds for deployment. is there a manual or procedure? what must we do to ensure that the wds works? how can we integrate the new signed files into the wim's for deployment?