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It's time for our fourth Ask Microsoft Anything (AMA) about updating Secure Boot certificates on your Windows devices before they expire in June of 2026. If you've already bookmarked Secure Boot playbook, but need more details or have a specific question, join us to get the answers you need to prepare for this milestone. No question is too big or too small. Update scenarios, inventorying your estate, formulating the right deployment plan for your organization -- we're here to help!
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- Amanda_ACopper Contributor
Does failing to complete the Secure Boot 2023 transition impact Microsoft Defender for Endpoint protections or visibility,
- mihiBrass Contributor
Not expected.
- mpottratzCopper Contributor
Will you answer questions missed/skipped in the meeting please? 🙏 Thank you!
- MikePoole1Copper Contributor
We have approx. 60k devices, split across Intune and Legacy (Config Manager). A LOT of the older devices are on old BIOS versions - are we ok to deploy the certs using remediation scripts (setting applicableUpdates to 5944 on devices that have Secure Boot). We want to do this so we have control over the rollout. Will the certs remain if we subsequently update the vendor BIOS on these machines ?
- mihiBrass Contributor
Secure Boot state including certificates is not to be touched by firmware updates. So the certificates should remain.
Of course, bugs may require that you manually enter firmware setup and reset settings after a firmware update. In this case, the certificates may be gone if not included in the default DB already.
- H0FFCopper Contributor
Something interesting yesterday, device asking for BitLocker Recover Key, due to "Secure Boot policy has unexpectedly changed". Is this expected for some devices?
- SofienAzriCopper Contributor
Hi,
We have already completed the BIOS update roll-out across all PC models in our environment.
In parallel, we are deploying the Secure Boot CA 2023 certificate upgrade using a Microsoft Intune configuration profile. Due to the very slow adoption rate observed during monitoring—both through Intune policy status and Secure Boot compliance reports—we have also introduced a remediation script to support the deployment.
Despite these efforts, the increase in deployed devices remains limited. This behavior may be related to policy application constraints or required system restarts. According to several references, the Secure Boot update process may require up to two device restarts before the changes are fully applied and reported.
Questions:
1- what is the Best way to complete the task, is to go with Registry settings and schedule the task, or with Config profile over Microsoft Intune?
2- Will the May Patch Tuesday update scheduled for May 12 guarantee a resolution of this issue and help increase the deployment and compliance numbers? - H0FFCopper Contributor
Updating the firmware, can it impact on other drivers? Any observations at this point?
- TristanRCopper Contributor
We are considering a script that sets HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecureBoot\AvailableUpdates to 0x5944 and starts the \Microsoft\Windows\PI\Secure-Boot-Update task.
Can you confirm exactly what this does, and what the risks are of doing this manually or at scale?
- mihiBrass Contributor
On incompatible firmware it may result in system freezes, Secure Boot errors on next boot, or devices requiring Bitlocker recovery at next reboot.
On most devices it will just work fine.
So make sure you have some resources available for handling the broken devices (e.g. walk to them to reboot them or enter bitlocker keys). You might also disable/suspend BitLocker during the update although this is not officially suggested by Microsoft.
- dwqddaCopper Contributor
I missed the beginning of this meeting. Did you address if Windows update will automatically update certificates after the 2011 certificates expires given updates that resolve other secure boot boot loader related issues won't be installed if the 2023 certs aren't installed?
- mihiBrass Contributor
You can watch the VOD again whenever you like.
Certificate updates will still continue after the old certificates expired, if supported by the firmware and confidence level. And once they are installed, the boot loader will be updated again.
- gman1138Copper Contributor
Hello :)
In Intune I've set
Configure High Confidnece Opt Out - Disabled
Configure Microsoft Update Managed Opt In = Enabled
The only policy I haven't enabled is...Enable SecureBoot Certificate Updates = Enabled (as this will actually force the certificates to deploy). As we don't have a way to easily target this ie there is no entra group property Secure Boot ready = yes that we can make a group for and deploy, it is either deploy to all, or manual groups which will take ages in a huge environment.
As I understand, with the top two policies, the devices are being checked for confidence and when it is high, Microsoft are switching the reg key to set the update to happen. Is this correct or I mis understand?
I have the remediation check running which is checking compliance however most are Confidence = Under Observation - More Data Needed and it's Not Started. These are all devices like Dell Latitude 5550, 5430, 5450, etc etc nothing obscure.
Is there something more I should be doing at this point? BIOS updates are being done, Secure boot is on so not sure why it still isn't moving forward?Thank you. :)
- mihiBrass Contributor
The first setting is enough to get certificates updates with LCU if confidence is high.
Second setting in combination with telemetry at least Basic (and telemetry not being blocked) will also push the updates via CFR slightly earlier than LCU would.
The rest of your description is correct.
- reinventCopper Contributorundefined