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Join us for a special Ask Microsoft Anything (AMA) live video stream across four Microsoft content collaboration products: SharePoint, OneDrive, Lists, and Stream! Our product teams will be answering...
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Updated Dec 27, 2024
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stuartmcgarrity
Brass Contributor
Jun 14, 2023
Stream: When I make a video for internal consumption I usually do not care where I store it, like YouTube. I don't want to have to think about it and move my file somewhere. Stream Classic used this model and users in my company got used to it. What would your recommendation now for individuals? Should each used create their own generic video folders in OneDrive? Do we as a company, create a generic "Video" SharePoint site?
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Marc Mroz
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Jun 14, 2023
I know this change is different than Stream (Classic) and YouTube. But it matches what users would have to do to share any other file in M365. So we are bringing videos to match the same mental models as other files. Our suggestion is that users start storing videos wherever makes the most sense to them in the flow of their other work. If they are sharing in a Viva Engage community they can just upload it to the post or Community directly. Or if it's part of a Teams team just upload the video there in the Files tab. If they already have a SP site for other related work upload them directly in the SP site. If it's not something that fits to some other team, community, site, then upload them to OneDrive. Folks just need to be okay with uploading videos and sharing them in M365 the same way they would any other file. It's different but people should be able to easily understand it once they get over the slight mental shift.
  • stuartmcgarrity's avatar
    stuartmcgarrity
    Brass Contributor
    Jun 14, 2023
    Hi Marc, Thanks for following up. I'm still on the fence about the net benefit of these changes. With Stream on SharePoint, I have managed to do lots of cool things with my videos by now having access to the SharePoint REST API (get/set properties, transcripts). But this big model change will make it more awkward for many content creators. Its like if Google said "We have shutdown YouTube. Instead, simply upload videos to Google Drive folders and share them like files!" You *can* think of video as files but in my experience its common for many people not to. Its a shame we can't have the best of both worlds.
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    Rhys Williams
    Iron Contributor
    Jun 14, 2023
    Or you just dont change something that isnt broken in the first place? Everyone liked the way a Stream classic channel was like a YouTube channel and you could easily present videos around a certain topic in the same place. I think "Users just need to get used to it" is a terrible answer.
    • Marc Mroz's avatar
      Marc Mroz
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      Jun 14, 2023

      I do think you can have the best of both worlds. Check out Playlists, more to come in this space as we make even more investment in Playlists. Check out building video destinations into SharePoint pages https://aka.ms/StreamPortals You can have easy share of videos as files and destinations for sets of videos. You have to do a little bit of work with web parts but it's way more powerful. I can tell you looking at the telemetry across Stream (Classic) before we decided to switch to Stream (on SP) and the usage on Stream (on SP) so far even though people are still migrating, we've way more than eclipsed usage of Stream (Classic) historically with usage on Stream (on SharePoint). So way more videos being uploaded, shared, and viewed on the new platform than we ever had on Stream (Classic). So I hear you that "just get used to it" is a horrible answer. To add more, we are working more on Playlists, Stream Start Page, Web Parts, SP Video Pages, Permissions, and other features to help users feel better about using SharePoint over Stream (Classic). We know that the loss of channels and portal is hard and we are working on various features to alleviate some of that pain.

      • stuartmcgarrity's avatar
        stuartmcgarrity
        Brass Contributor
        Jun 14, 2023
        Please keep working on playlists (using Microsoft lists). I think they are currently not usable. I spent some time trying to re-create my Stream classic channels and found I had to add a custom column to a view to store the sort order. This is too much work.