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The new Microsoft Planner: What’s New and What’s Coming Next + AMA
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I feel like this is a huge thing for Microsoft to get right, and I feel like the answer given here and on the otherwise great presentation shows a misunderstanding of what people (including me) are asking for. It’s something that even Microsoft DevOps doesn’t get quite right.
What I think people (including myself) are asking, is for sort of a way to look at all tasks in the entire company as if they were stored in one big data table, and then have filters, views and so on to work with those tasks. The tools that Jens mentioned let you do that. Microsoft is talking about either aggregated views (which doesn't let you work with the individual tasks) or Frontline tasks, that are a bit different than just normal tasks, across many different projects, programs and portfolios. As a project manager, for instance, I want to see all tasks, across all plans and portfolios, that are assigned to Roberto, to get a sense of his workload.
I think the problem for Microsoft is, that the legacy of the structure underneath Planner doesn’t allow for this to happen. That would require, as it was asked, for everything to be stored in Dataverse, but that’s not happening (yet). If that was to happen, then we could work with the data as we please… if I understood the question correctly.
Edit: a few minor grammatical errors and some formatting for better understanding
- OwenJonesSep 17, 2024Iron Contributor
Agreed, this is exactly what is required to manage tasks across an organisation. IMO far more important than Copilot, Whiteboard etc - the basics need to be right before all the next gen bells and whistles. Look at all the comments here - very few people asking for Copilot and no mention of whiteboard. Microsoft - PLEASE prioritise the "boring" stuff first so people can really use it as a standard tool - then add the extras.
- GW_SwicordSep 18, 2024Iron ContributorThis: "Microsoft - PLEASE prioritise the "boring" stuff first so people can really use it as a standard tool - then add the extras. "
- AllanWithSep 18, 2024Iron ContributorYeah I agree, but to be fair, I do think it would be a huge undertaking to try and migrate all of the old planner over to dataverse. They would essentially have to re-code everying in Planner (and To-do), but the benefits to end users would be huge. And the potentiel for this to finally become the one dominating project management tool from Microsoft would be a huge step closer. One could even start to dream of replacing DevOps...
- marcodebonaSep 18, 2024Brass ContributorSuch a true statement: We need the boring and useful things done before even thinking on using "sexy" things as Copilot! The use case for Copilot is clearly not coming from users, but from the MS Sales team, pushing a need that does not exist. MS listen to this: No one will ask copilot to prepare a summary of the project status if the product is not fit to be used for project management... Focus on basic and listen to users, not the sales/marketing team!
- jeffreyroseberrySep 18, 2024Brass Contributor"No one will ask copilot to prepare a summary of the project status if the product is not fit to be used for project management" - fantastic point, especially considering the learning curve associated with creating Power BI reporting.