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AMA: Enrolling modern devices with Windows Autopilot
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Interested in the simplified Autopilot device enrollment flows? Do you have questions about pre-provisioned devices? Curious about advanced app and policy configuration during Windows Autopilot enrollment? Using Windows Autopilot today and want to catch up on the latest changes?
Join us for a special Ask Microsoft Anything (AMA) live stream on Windows Autopilot.
This is a great opportunity to learn from Microsoft experts. Add this event to your calendar, RSVP to receive notifications, then join us here for the live stream on the Tech Community on Thursday, July 21st.
Submit your questions anytime during the hour or post them early in the Comments below. |
128 Comments
- DanielDavilaBrass Contributor
Can the MS team please clarify that "Block device use until required apps are installed if they are assigned to the user/device" which is part of the ESP Profile should be set to ALL for pre-provisioning scenarios? I ask because IF there's a custom list of apps and it's not the full set of apps that are actually targeted, a green screen will show up prematurely because not all apps are tracked. This setting with "selected" is not optimal for pre-provisionig, it's more User Driven so the ESP doesn't have to track every app and user can get to the desktop quicker.
- JuanitaBaptiste
Microsoft
Hi Daniel, the “block device use until required apps are installed..” setting can be set to ALL if you are doing pre-provisioning and want all apps to be tracked in ESP. The challenge with doing this is that the whole process will fail if an app that’s targeted fails but is not necessarily crucial to deployment. We are working on improving this experience for more flexibility in the pre-provisioning phase in the near term.
- KenSchererOccasional ReaderI'd like to learn more about the Autopilot with Co-management topic that Danny discussed. Can you direct me to links that speaks more about the with pre-requisites, recommendations, etc. If it doesn't support Hybrid Azure AD join, that seems that it would limit the usability of Co-management since the customers I have all need Hybrid Azure AD join because of their legacy application environment.
- treestryderIron ContributorIf your users accounts are hybrid, give pure Azure AD Joined devices a try. Very few things require Device authentication and hybrid-User authentication just works -- for most things. The only place we struggle is Windows will first try to authenticate the user with their modern auth token, when things like our RADIUS server and old web applications require username and password authentication.
- treestryderIron ContributorSee also Jason Sandy's response to related thread. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-endpoint-manager/ama-enrolling-modern-devices-with-windows-autopilot/ec-p/3579785#M753
- Heather_Poulsen
Community Manager
Here's a great place to start: https://aka.ms/AutopilotCoManagement. You can hear Danny talk in more detail - and offer best practices and tips - in this episode of Unpacking Endpoint Management: http://aka.ms/UEM/AutopilotCoManagement.
- Krisahna_kOccasional ReaderWhat is the typical and expected time to setup a machine with AutoPilot
- Rachelle_Blanchard
Microsoft
Admin response: This question was answered live. Please refer to the recording for more details.
- MichaelWBrass ContributorWhat is the best way in your oppinion to update an app win32 app through intune? o Do you guys delete the old app and create a new one when a new app updates comes out? o Do you work with the supersed mod? o Do you work with powershell app deployment toolkit?
- ImranHaqueFrequent ReaderHi Michael, after you've added a Win32 app to Intune, you can use Intune to create one or more supersedence relationships between apps. In general, supersedence is where you update or replace something. In Intune, supersedence enables you to update and replace existing Win32 apps with newer versions of the same app or an entirely different Win32 app. Here is a doc to help further: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/apps/apps-win32-supersedence
- RobdeRoosIron ContributorThe biggest issue we have to use autopilot is to get the device in a "known state". Hardware vendors put devices on the shelf with bloatware/marketing stuf/etc. on the devices that potentially can create issues during autopilot. To get those devices into a "known state" we need to reimage those. That is a very time consuming process and highly undesirable. Is there something coming that brings the device to te latest Windows build (desired) without bloatware during pre provisioning? (please say yes :P)
- Olaf_ThyssenBrass ContributorIn our environment new devices coming with bloatfree OS directly from Lenovo & Dell (extra costs). This doesn‘t work when buying from the store near buy. To get a fresh OS I recommend OSDcloud from David S. It downloads/installs official business version of Win10 or 11 directly from MS source and injects drivers from Dell,Lenovo,HP,Microsoft,VMware from vendor sources based on hardware. You just need 8GB USB pendrive and the custom script is even possible stored in Azure storage account …
- RobdeRoosIron ContributorThanks for the live reply on this one. Regarding to the bloatware side, it would be nice to have a clean image install possibility, I would say during pre provisioning or maybe even during user provisioning. I believe vendor tooling should be secured by deploying them through Intune. That I would like to manage as an IT department.
- Hung_Dang
Microsoft
We're investigating installing OS updates during the Autopilot flow (i.e., moving the OS forward to a desired version). Moving the OS back to a supported version is very hard, including inventorying OS images, drivers, firmware, etc. With respect to bloatware, we did have an idea of offering an option to reset the device with the option to remove bloatware during the Autopilot process. We've never ranked it too high, since that's a horribly long process to do a reset, and would be a bad experience for the end user. If you have other ideas or thoughts, we're open to them, too.- RobdeRoosIron ContributorWe use MDT to reimage the devices. It is by far the fastest approach but I don't want to spend that time on a device. It's a shame that vendors are only focused on marketing instead of listening to business desires.
- OliverGFCopper ContributorWhy the feature "Skip AD connectivity check" remains in "preview" after 2 years? What happen with the clients that need device objects in AD but wants to use Autopilot?
- Jason_Sandys
Microsoft
There is a myriad of reason for this that all stem from this not being our recommend or preferred path for provisioning new Windows endpoints. Is there a specific reason that you must have a device object in your on-prem AD? Keep in mind that authentication to on-prem resources does not require this in the vast majority of cases; see https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/devices/azuread-join-sso for reference.- OliverGFCopper ContributorHi Jason, thank you for your reply. Right now I have many stoppers I need to solve before achieve the only AAD joined scenario (LAPS, Legacy authentication, Customizations based on AD attributes, drive mapping, etc.) we have Co-Management with all workloads in Intune, and for me Autopilot is one of the consequences of a mature Modern Management, now I would like to understand if with this scenario is fine to proceed with Autopilot or if I have to stay with legacy on-prem OSD technology while I remove all the AD dependencies.
- Shabi_BashaCopper Contributor
in upcoming autopilot feature (deploying configmgr client) - if the SCCM environment doesn't have CMG, what would be recommendation?
- Jason_Sandys
Microsoft
The feature was designed with a CMG in mind as a general core assumption of Autopilot is that connectivity to the on-prem environment may or may not exist. Ultimately, as long as the ConfigMgr client can communicate with the site, there's no reason it shouldn't work. Providing that connectivity would be tricky during Autopilot though (I can't actually think of a way to make it happen) as there is no VPN client deployed or connected at this point in Autopilot and IBCM wouldn't be sufficient either as the device hasn't had a client auth cert deployed to it yet.
- dsmodusBrass ContributorIs still a problem to mix LoB apps with Win32 during Autopilot?
- Jason_Sandys
Microsoft
That depends. Today, there is no explicit coordination or orchestration between the different deployment methods and so it's possible that conflicts occur because of this. These conflicts are generally unpredictable and thus terribly difficult to discover or troubleshoot. Thus yes, we ultimately recommend that folks avoid mixing the multiple types of app deployment during Autopilot. Packaging your MSI-based apps as a Win32 app is a fairly straight-forward and quick process so avoiding these conflicts is also straight-forward.
- KhanHashemiCopper Contributorcan you please say something about Autopilot in connection with Device hybride join. how this works and what things need to be configured?
- Rachelle_Blanchard
Microsoft
Admin response: This question was answered live. Please refer to the recording for more details.
- Jason_Sandys
Microsoft
For reference, aka.ms/cloudnativeendpoints. Bottom line is that we strongly recommend using Azure AD join for new device provisioning and limit hybrid Azure AD join to previously provisioned Windows endpoints only.
- Amunoz1450Copper ContributorHI, 1. Is Autopilot inHybrid mode support Laps in AD environnent? 2. When will laps be implemented in Azure AD ? Thanks
- Jason_Sandys
Microsoft
Hi Anthony, LAPS isn't directly related to Autopilot so whether or not you use LAPS and whether it supports hybrid Azure AD joined Windows endpoints are two distinct capabilities for you to choose, As for when will an Azure-based LAPS solution be available from Microsoft, as has been revealed recently in a recent Windows Insider's release blog post, we are currently working on this but have nothing specific to share about timelines for release and integration with MEM at this time other than yes, this is something we are working on. However, keep in mind that our strongly recommended path for new Windows endpoint provisioning is Azure AD join -- hybrid Azure AD join is meant for existing devices only and shouldn't in general be considered for new device provisioning. See aka.ms/cloudnativeenedpoints for a lot more details on this.