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Windows 12 as far as i know?
As per this thread created, i got some information about Windows 12, which is:
- Windows 12 is coming about late 2024 or early 2025.
- Windows 12 is possibly already show up on Canary Channel although it is not officially confirmed.
- Several news sources say that HP give a hint if around October 2024, the Windows 11 version 24H2 (or Windows 11 2024 Update) is released, while HP is keep silent about Windows 12, which is possibly Windows 12 will be delayed a bit later after Windows 11 24H2 released.
- System requirements for Windows 12 is definitely higher than Windows 11. Windows 12 still require TPM 2, Secure Boot support, and processor that capable to use hardware accelerated VBS properly, such as processor that released on 2018 and later. Windows 12 require minimum 8 GB of ram and possibly still same 64 GB disk space, while SSD is becoming a mandatory. Actually, Windows 12 require special hardware named NPU (Neural Processing Unit) for all features in Windows 12 is working properly, but since the NPU is still very expensive to acquire (or basically you need an Intel Core Ultra 5 125U at least), so these requirements should be optional.
- Information about whether Windows 12 will be a subscription based operating system or not is still unclear, but most speculation says that Windows 12 is not required to subscribe to use.
That's it from me. If you got any more further information about Windows 12, you can share here.
Thanks to XDA that give me a big overview about Windows 12.
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I don't understand why a NPU must be a requirement when there's plenty of us who have GPUs that outperform NPUs in terms of TOPS performance. Show me an NPU that outperforms the RTX4070Ti. I hate that I'm gatekept from features because I chose to build a PC with a 9800X3D and a 4070Ti instead of an NPU. At least give us the option to leverage some of our tensor cores and CUDA cores to use "Copilot+" features. I can run LLMs locally on my PC, with better generation times and throughput than the leading NPU driven PC, but I can't use the enhanced search in windows. Make it make sense.
If Windows 12 were to give us the option to leverage our GPUs in lieu of an NPU, I'd be a very early adopter, but if they're going to try to force us to get a new (N)PU then I'll just stick with Win11 to the end, the way so many people have been doing with Win10.
Just my two cents. Of course, it's all speculation based on what's been mentioned in this post and thread.Well, you will just have to cough up a nickel, since Donald Trump suspended The Penny. . . . As far as The Microsoft Windows 🪟 GUI NTFS Application stuff goes, OEMs are painfully going to wait, or ship with Chrome or Linux. . . 🤠
I don't understand why a NPU must be a requirement when there's plenty of us who have GPUs that outperform NPUs in terms of TOPS performance. Show me an NPU that outperforms the RTX4070Ti. I hate that I'm gatekept from features because I chose to build a PC with a 9800X3D and a 4070Ti instead of an NPU. At least give us the option to leverage some of our tensor cores and CUDA cores to use "Copilot+" features. I can run LLMs locally on my PC, with better generation times and throughput than the leading NPU driven PC, but I can't use the enhanced search in windows. Make it make sense.
If Windows 12 were to give us the option to leverage our GPUs in lieu of an NPU, I'd be a very early adopter, but if they're going to try to force us to get a new (N)PU then I'll just stick with Win11 to the end, the way so many people have been doing with Win10.
Just my two cents. Of course, it's all speculation based on what's been mentioned in this post and thread.Generally, emulators adds LOADs to the GPU that disturbs graphics performance. Possibly the unused integrated GPU on the CPU could be useful to run the AI needs. . . 🤠
All I know is windows 12 might be released in September this year
Well, it is late October, 2025, and still no Windows 12. . . .
not another windows 11/12 that come out with to low system requirement!!!! The set minimum should 2.5CPU with 32GB RAM and 500GB internal storage. Recommend 64GB RAM and 1TB internal because windows 11 PC with has a lot less headache! Microsoft will drive way their customer base way make where cheap PC and laptop builds at 8 GB -16GB RAM all riddle with blue screen of death, error or not run at all. Just take look at best buy and amazon review!!!😂
Never heard any news about Windows 12. The latest one is Windows 11 26H2
Well, the Blue Screen Of DOS is a FABULOUS new FEATURE of Windows 🪟, allowing USERs to quickly enter Command Line instructions to get Windows 🪟 GUI NTFS Application up & running ASAP. 🤠 . . .
Windows 12 is speculated to launch in late 2025 or early 2026, with higher system requirements than Windows 11. Features may include mandatory SSDs, NPU support for advanced features, and continued TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot. Retail keys for Windows 11 Pro can be purchased at Microsoft partners like Hypes-tkey.
Let’s talk about those system requirements. Higher than Windows 11? Of course! When will these companies learn? It’s like asking your grandma for a recipe that needs rare truffles from France! “You mean I have to buy a whole new toolset just to get my computer to run?!”
Do we even know what Windows 12 is supposed to look like?
Meet Windows 12 - FINALLY Revealed!
https://youtu.be/4X45j1FcLHk?si=DiYdoR8FOyAau3xL
Is there any official statement about Windows 12?
As you said, that Neural Processing Unit, will be a problem. I have the horsepower to run Windows 12, with an AMD Ryzen 7 and an SSD drive C:, but the AMD Ryzen 9 and it's AI capabilities are a bit far away from me now. \nThank you, for the insight! It's 2025, and no sign of '12 yet. Perhaps Darren is right with a 2027/'28, launch date.
Windows 12 needs a release date of 2027/2028. They have released Windows 11 which is already a nightmare for Home Users and Business. Whose computers why working perfect don't meet the TPM requirements. if Microsoft releases Windows 12 early to deflect the bad image Windows 11 has. They will fail miserable. Most users don't have a NPU processor in the Processors such as AMD 2000 series to 5000 or Intel 8th to 11th Gen those users won't throw good working machines away. it may drive people to Linux.
Secondly if Microsoft refuses to allow people to customise Windows as present they do. Where the users cannot unstall Apps it will fail.
