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TheFNGee
Nov 04, 2024Copper Contributor
Temporarily Leaving Insider...
I've been an "Insider" for 10 years and am an MS Alumni. At the moment, my system is very unstable, and I'm at 26120.2200 on DEV. The online "reset" by "Recovery" fails time after time, and the newest ISO I have for Win11 is for build 26000 from June of '24. Many, many quick crashes of various apps the debugger calls:
Security check failure or stack buffer overrun - code c0000409 (first/second chance not available)
Subcode: 0x7 FAST_FAIL_FATAL_APP_EXIT
Teams will essentially crash silently over and over. Other apps do the same. I'm exhausted from restoring backups, and it's no fun even if your backups/restores are successful. If the system is unstable, it's no good. I've run the built-in Memtest on my ASUS Maximus Z790 motherboard (with 128GB of RAM) OVERNIGHT. The Memtest also has a "let's beat on your CPU test," and I've run it OVERNIGHT. BOTH with ZERO errors.
When I try to download a newer ISO, my machine is blocked from downloading builds, getting an error "715-123130 and 0937e3ef-85ee-495e-9ead-1ec99007c5a4," and I'm not using a VPN, nor any other hiding technology.
"Error
We are unable to complete your request at this time. Some users, entities and locations are banned from using this service. For this reason, leveraging anonymous or location hiding technologies when connecting to this service is not generally allowed. If you believe that you encountered this problem in error, please try again. If the problem persists, you may contact Microsoft Support – Contact Us page for assistance. Refer to message code 715-123130 and 2df76cc4-cbbe-4ec1-92be-c4e03ea143e4."
I'm at my wit's end. So, how do I temporarily leave Windows Insider to get stable (like load 242H) and then come back in?
Thanks,
Steve
- AnonymousNov 06, 2024
You can ask a friend to create a USB installation media by selecting settings (not for this computer device), or you can use WIFI in another location, e.g. at your friends and there try to download the ISO of the Stable version of Windows11, if it's just a network access problem, what do you think?
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- TheFNGeeCopper Contributor
Here's an update to this saga: Since I've been back on the Win11 242H release, I've not had many greenscreens at all—maybe two. However, the annoying, random, "fast-fail" crashes have increased. I can't explain this phenomenon. Does anyone have any ideas?
Steve
- TheFNGeeCopper Contributor
Another oddity: After I reloaded the released version of Win11242H, I haven't experienced any machine crashes since. Yesterday (after I posted the above), I decided to get back on the Insider and loaded 2222 on top of 242H. It was very quick and easy.
Within ½ days, I experienced two Greenscreens—one in NTFS.SYS and the second with no module listed. After the second crash, I couldn't even get back in to debug.
The multiple backups I had, which had saved me several times in the past three months, were suddenly "non-existent" to Recovery—there were four of them since going back to release.
Finally, I found one that I had previously written off. Recovery recognized it and worked after I changed the directory name back to "WindowsImageBackup." Thank goodness for that, or I'd have been rebuilding entirely again. This backup already had Office and many of my essential programs installed, so I was lucky there.
I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't have enough time to debug the issues thoroughly, and I'm not even sure I have the ability to do so. I can't count the number of times I run the SFC and Deployment Image Servicing and Management "health check" processes to make sure I can run stably.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
PS - Had to change D I S M, 'cause MS thought I was being nasty: 🤣 - TheFNGeeCopper Contributor
Here's some weirdness for you. MS actually let me download 242H with my Android phone. I copied it over to my PC, verified the hash, and installed it. Knock on wood, I haven't had a single green screen since.
Now I have to decide to go back into the Insider. After a couple of days stability. I'm sort of concerned about doing so. But, hell, it's been 10 years with the Insider Program, I might as well. :)Thanks for the help,
Steve
- TheFNGeeCopper Contributor
Thanks so much for the reply. However, I can't even download the "latest" of Win11 because I get the same error message:
Error
We are unable to complete your request at this time. Some users, entities and locations are banned from using this service. For this reason, leveraging anonymous or location hiding technologies when connecting to this service is not generally allowed. If you believe that you encountered this problem in error, please try again. If the problem persists you may contact Microsoft Support – Contact Us page for assistance. Refer to message code 715-123130 and 1c705c4b-9c51-4945-a8a2-f18cea8c6b06.
I'm not using a VPN or hiding behind anything that I'm aware of. I disabled the "Transparent Bridge" between my network drop and my edge router, but it made no difference. I keep getting the same error, so I'm still stuck. I DID call MS support, and the online agent just kept telling me it was an issue with the Network, and we never resolved the issue. Whenever I attempt to actually download an ISO from Microsoft, whether it be for Windows Insider 11, Windows Insider Server, or now just getting the latest version of Win11 to drop out of Insider for a while, I get this error.
S'funny though, I can download MS ISOs with my Android phone anytime I want.
Any ideas would be appreciated. This all started about two months ago when I found my drop's DHCP-assigned IP address on a French-based "IP blacklist" org. I share a subnet with many, many spammers whose servers have German (.de) domain roots but may have their servers based in the same physical area I am.
Thanks,
Steve
- Anonymous
You can ask a friend to create a USB installation media by selecting settings (not for this computer device), or you can use WIFI in another location, e.g. at your friends and there try to download the ISO of the Stable version of Windows11, if it's just a network access problem, what do you think?
- Anonymous
Hi TheFNGee
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-insider/isos#clean-installation-with-a-windows-11-iso-not-an-insider-preview-build
Unfortunately, only a clean install of the stable build of Windows 11, can remove Insider settings, if you don't log in to Insider again, then you will only get stable updates 🙂