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PIKun
Iron Contributor
Jul 23, 2025

If Windows Phone was successful, would we have seen more native Windows apps?

I’ve been noticing recently that while many Windows apps are being turned into web wrappers, some of the same apps on macOS are native, including:

  • Messenger
  • ChatGPT
  • Perplexity
  • WhatsApp (soon becoming a web wrapper on Windows)
  • Amazon Prime Video

Most of these apps use Mac Catalyst which allows developers to port their iOS UIKit app to macOS. ChatGPT uses SwiftUI which is Apple’s newer technology for writing apps that work across multiple Apple platforms.

Messenger recently replaced their React Native app on Mac with a Catalyst version, while Windows last year got a lazy web wrapper that can’t even send notifications when closed (despite PWAs supporting this capability)

Which leads me to think, if Windows Phone and UWP was successful would the native app situation on desktop Windows be better today?

Nowadays the “universal” part of UWP simply means it can be deployed to Xbox as well but that’s not done so often.

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  • Hhanlin's avatar
    Hhanlin
    Iron Contributor

    Microsoft’s inconsistent messaging, platform limitations, and the perceived complexity of UWP made many devs hesitant.