stopping a Pin signin loop, How to get a user login?

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Hi, I shutoff all Services on my win 10 pro laptop to debug something. &nbsp; Now the machine is in a Pin signin loop. &nbsp;I assume the Pin auth process was a service and now it's not running. &nbsp;I can signon to Command Prompt, I can run notepad, taskmgr, and regedit but not msconfig or settings. &nbsp; Can anyone think of a way I could force a Windows User signon the next login with mostly just command line tools?

kapilarya · Answer

Hello&nbsp;FlashGordon7,I've seen this issue earlier and if you've disabled all Microsoft services, TBH, there is no workaround for this, except complete reinstall.Regards.

flashgordon7 · Answer

KapilArya&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Thanks, I won't spend a lot more time trying to fix this. &nbsp; Just for the sake of others I did notice that going in and out Command Prompt, running notepad and taskmgr from the command line, turned regular userid sign on for on a one time basis. &nbsp; This lulled me &nbsp;and I thought I had a fix for the pin loop problem. &nbsp; I learned to my chagrin that it only works once for some reason.

flashgordon7 · Answer

KapilArya&nbsp;&nbsp;Ok, a miracle has happened (and miracles are rare in our business). &nbsp; I got control of the machine again. &nbsp; This is what I did. &nbsp; I have a relatively healthy (the only problem was the pin loop) win 10 pro machine and I had made a recovery thumb drive earlier. So I:- Did Shift Restart and picked the Use a Device option- I had a Windows recovery thumb drive made from this machine earlier in a usb port- I picked USB Drive UEFI- I picked "Advanced" Restore- then it was asking which partition I wanted to install windows on. &nbsp;At this I killed the partition window with the x and rebooted the machine.- the next login prompt was a user prompt. &nbsp; I logged back in and turned all Services back on and tried to turn Pin prompt off. &nbsp; After that I had control of the machine again through reboot/power cycles.&nbsp;

kapilarya · Answer

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FlashGordon7&nbsp;wrote:
- then it was asking which partition I wanted to install windows on. &nbsp;At this I killed the partition window with the x and rebooted the machine.
- the next login prompt was a user prompt. &nbsp; I logged back in and turned all Services back on and tried to turn Pin prompt off. &nbsp; After that I had control of the machine again through reboot/power cycles.
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Hello&nbsp;FlashGordon7,Though, I can't understand what logic worked here, but in the end if the issue was fixed, that's the most awesome thing. Thanks for your update!

flashgordon7 · Answer

KapilArya&nbsp;&nbsp;I was looking at msconfig Services this morning and I see why a lot of people are having this problem.&nbsp;&nbsp; One Microsoft tech thread had 1000+ “I’m having this problem too” on the pin loop situation.&nbsp; Services has a “Disable All” option and it is my contention if you have Pin enabled and you Disable All Services you put yourself in a very bad situation (can’t sign in with the pin you know and you can’t reach any other login options).&nbsp;&nbsp; Disable All is easy to do and I’m sure most people think they can’t hurt themselves by choosing it.&nbsp;I know this recovery thumb fix doesn’t show profound understanding of the underlying components.&nbsp;&nbsp; I got out of the Partition selector because I wanted to look some things up about it, not because I thought the next login was going to give me a user prompt.&nbsp;&nbsp; But the general theme here is if you are having this pin problem try a bunch of different boot cycle options to see if you can wake up the userid login one time.&nbsp;&nbsp; I know that at least the first time going in and out of the Command Prompt login woke the userid login option for me.&nbsp; It makes some sense to me that connecting to a thumb recovery drive might disrupt the pin only boot cycle.I like Pin but after these problems I wanted to turn it off because losing the whole machine is high cost.&nbsp; In my opinion it’s almost impossible to turn the Pin prompt off once it’s set up.&nbsp;&nbsp; My Windows Hello is turned off and Windows is still demanding a pin at signin.&nbsp;&nbsp; One benefit of toggling Windows Hello off is that Userid Options icon came back to my signon screen after I toggled it off, incredibly important.One other thought about getting out of this problem.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you are using Windows 10 Pro or Enterprise I’m almost positive Remote Desktop will demand a userid login, not a pin login.&nbsp;&nbsp; It didn’t help in my situation because I have Norton Firewall on by default and it blocks the port (I turn the firewall off when I want to use Remote Desktop).

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