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Possible problems with periodic sync aproach?
Thanks for the quick answer. I know that the sections stay intact but what about the students if in the new CSV-files there is no mention of the section listed in previous CSV-files. Here is the scenario:
Sync 1 with CSV files batch 1: Section A (SIS ID 11111) with students
Sync 2 with CSV files batch 2 (same sync profile as Sync 1): Section B (SIS ID 2222) with students . In the batch 2 there is no mention of Section A in the section CSV file nor the student enrollment or teacher roster CSV files!
What will happen to Section A after Sync 2 is run?
- Section A will be gone and students too (I beleive this will not be the case)
- Section A will be there but with no students
- Section A will be there with the students
So, I want to find out how does the comparison actually work between different CSV-files :)
Hello.
Despite of all answers, here are my 2 cents.
When you archive a section (it is not included anymore in the SDS data), the O365 Group and the attached Team in the cloud will remain at the state, where they are left at that point. You do not have to include those groups in further sync data.
SDS will not delete Groups/Teams.
This is not only tested, but running in production (several tenants/ > 100k Students) and actually, overall concept is based on the fact that "archived" sections will stay in the cloud until deleted by some other measures than SDS.
Best Regards
Marko
Hi!
"When you archive a section (it is not included anymore in the SDS data)"
That depends how you define your query.
"Group and the attached Team in the cloud will remain at the state, where they are left at that point."
Thats interesting. If I understand you correctly, you mean that also members will remain in those groups?"SDS will not delete Groups/Teams."
No it don't.
br Tapio
Hi.
I don't understand your first point, of course depends on query, but as stated, if course/class data is not included anymore, the state will be left were it was when last synced.
"Group and the attached Team in the cloud will remain at the state, where they are left at that point."
Thats interesting. If I understand you correctly, you mean that also members will remain in those groups?Yes.
MF
Hi!
I mean, that students and teacher are removed from group/Teams.
Group/Team are not deleted and data is left intact, you propably mean that.
The origal questions was "Will the students and teachers from the classes (sections) of previous periods stay unchanged so that students are not removes from previous courses (sections) etc.?"
We have also done archiving at the end of the term. And it works just like you describe it. But we are looking for a "mid-term" solution to secure courses of previous periods. I guess we use a different sync profile for each period or build a database of some sort inbetween SIS and SDS as a "safety measure".
hi.
Pls define "secure courses". Do you mean from teacher accidental deletion? Probably not possible, as teacher being owner of O365 group, thus capable of deletion. As stated in my other posts, data will remain, if not synced anymore, until deleted in cloud, SDS is not helping you there. And members will stay in group until group or member removed from group or cloud entirely.
But I'm interested in your additional sync profile idea, as I still struggle to understand, what cause there would be for me to use more than one, please elaborate, if possible?
MF
When i wrote "secure courses", I meant "secure" them from SDS removing the students from the courses of previous periods. When using only one sync profile you need to make sure that also the students from previous, not-retired sections are listed in CSV-files, otherwise the students will be removed.
Marko Franken wrote:
hi.
Pls define "secure courses". Do you mean from teacher accidental deletion? Probably not possible, as teacher being owner of O365 group, thus capable of deletion. As stated in my other posts, data will remain, if not synced anymore, until deleted in cloud, SDS is not helping you there. And members will stay in group until group or member removed from group or cloud entirely.
But I'm interested in your additional sync profile idea, as I still struggle to understand, what cause there would be for me to use more than one, please elaborate, if possible?
MF