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Combining optional packages and modification packages
- May 26, 2022
In case anyone is interested, and just so I don't leave another dangling thread, this is the redesign we've ended up going with:
* All apps are included in the main package, but only the config tool has an entry point (ergo only one with a Start entry).
* Optional packages add simple exes that launch the existing applications from the main container. The exes are registered as entry points, effectively allowing us to add Start entries for the apps that are already installed in the main package.
* Since all the apps are actually in the main package, even though they are only enabled when the optional package is installed, they can all see any DLLs and whatnot that have been overlaid by modification packages relative to their assemblies - this means we can ship our separately licensed components without any problems.
This works for us since there isn't any licensing issues with the apps themselves, just the components we want to ship in modification packages, and we really just wanted the admin to be able to choose what they add to the Start menu. The apps themselves aren't very big either, so including them all in the main package isn't a problem.
Hopefully this is useful to anyone trying to do something similar. I'll also link here from the other thread for anyone getting here from a web search.
- Philip_EveMay 24, 2022Copper Contributor
I regret that I never got any further than my previous messages here indicate. The reason why I never pushed any further on this is that we revisited our design decisions, and changed them in such a way that the architecture I had planned (main package + optional package + modification package modifying both) was no longer the favoured approach. It does sound as though the problem you are currently facing is the same problem we encountered.
- JDHIntercedeMay 23, 2022Brass ContributorJust to expand on this, I've used Invoke-CommandInDesktopPackage to run PowerShell inside the container and have verified that the files added by the Modification Package are showing up in the VFS, but they are not detected by the application being launched from the Optional Package.
If I make the app in the Optional Package into a Main Package, then change the Modification Package to apply to that, the file is detected correctly.
Based on this, it looks like:
* When the application is the Main Package it can load files (in this case, DLLs) that have been applied by a Modification Package.
* When the application is an Optional Package on top of a Main Package, it cannot load files that have been applied by a Modification Package.
Is this intentional? It doesn't seem to gel with what I'd expect, particularly now I've confirmed the files are in the expected place in the VFS.- May 23, 2022JDHIntercede I'll admit to being a bit confused by creating a related set and optional package.
If I want to have a primary package with a modification package that contains either different files or registry settings and this modification package contains no entry-points (Shortcuts/FTAs, etc..) Then all I need is the primary package and a package created as a modification package.
I believe that it is necessary that files in the primary and modification package exist as VFS files in their respective packages for the layering to work. (This is a restriction that Microsoft should, and may have fixed, but as I've never seen that they did I always make the packages this way).
The modification package references the main package by using the full package family name, and may not be installed until after the primary package is installed.
As such, all changes made by the app when running with the modification package are redirected based on the primary package family name.- JDHIntercedeMay 24, 2022Brass Contributor
TIMOTHY_MANGAN Hi Tim, yes the basic case isn't an issue; main package can read files from a modification package no problem. What I'm having issues with is that Optional Packages don't seem to share the same context.
For context, this is what I'm trying to do (finally picking it back up): Multi Application Suite? - Microsoft Tech Community
So, what I have is:
* Main package, which is a simple configuration tool* Several optional packages, all in a related set with the main package, which contain related but standalone applications in the suite. Customers may install any combination.
* In all of the packages, the entry points are inside the ProgramFilesX86 VFS directory.
* When I add a modification package with, say, a DLL, the main package can load it but the optional packages act like it doesn't exist.
* I've used Invoke-CommandInDesktopPackage to verify the modification package files are in the VFS, but I believe this is running the command in the context of the main package so doesn't help confirm what the optional package can see from its context.
* If I break-apart my suite, make one of the optional packages into a main package, then create a modification package containing the same file, the application can see it.
I've tried including the modification package inside the related set, but this has had no effect. The only way I can see to make an application load from a modification package is for the application itself to be the main package.
Why am I doing this? I wanted a single route to install different combinations of apps in an MSIX 'suite' (e.g. differently configured appinstaller files for different user groups, etc). The modification package that gets overlaid contains a separately-licensed plugin that should be accessible from all of the applications in the container - from what I'm seeing, this isn't achievable even though all the docs seem to indicate that optional packages should get the same VFS overlays as the main package.
I guess the problem I'm now having is that, because Microsoft hasn't documented optional packages at all well, I can't tell if this is intentional or a bug. It seems strange that optional packages can have entry points, all the docs say they share a VFS, but I'm finding they can't load the same files. If this is the case, then there's no way to customise an application with a modification package if it was delivered as an optional package, which seems like something of a gap. It also completely blocks MSIX for us, as the single experience was the main goal.