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using more neutral colors in the Light Theme
HotCakeXmaybe stop playing a semantics game? You obviously understand what I'm talking about. All the popular browsers (read: browsers that people are used to) use white, gray or cold gray. That is anywhere on the line from #00000 to #ffffff or slightly toward #000ff. Yellow is not on that line, and neither are beige, orange or brown.
The color is more offensive (you seem to not realize that it's a relative term) than white and grey because people are not used to it when it comes to browsers. Actually I think I've already answered that question, so I don't know why you keep asking.
I really don't, that's why I kept asking what you exactly meant.
so you expect me not to take your words seriously? because when i did you said i'm playing games! i was simply trying to understand you.
Microsoft decided to take a different approach and add a little bit of yellow to the background of the new tab page, hardly noticeable actually. and you're saying that they shouldn't because other browsers don't do that.
I say the color is not offensive at all. again by people you're referring to yourself only.
you say offensive is relative but relative to what? the color is not disgusting, it's not attacking me, it's not insulting me. so !?!?
you can set the new tab page style to "inspirational" so you will see an image instead of blank page with color that offends you..
There it is. I was waiting for that one. Well, you've kinda shot yourself in the foot there, friend. You reported a thread where you were the only person deserving of a ban. Grats.
BTW if things like "i believe the way it is now is better." and "people want out of curiosity" are technical facts to you, then.. well I actually wouldn't be surprised.
You're clearly not here for a technical and proper discussion and want to derail this thread and accuse me for things that don't exist and insult me.
I'm reporting this thread and not going to further reply to it.quotes from you:
For the record: you suggested something, and in the first few posts i proved with technical facts and proofs that your idea is already being applied here. there was no necessity for rudeness, false accusations and other things.
If you really aren't a troll and are actually being sincere then that's just sad. Coming and being snide and spiteful in a discussion thread - not on 4chan or YouTube, mind you - a freaking Insider forum practically no one uses; bashing on people for posting ideas and suggestions in a place where ideas a suggestions are supposed to be posted. Pathetic, no other word for it.
- Nope but think whatever you like
Ok now I'm 100% positive you're just a troll. Why did I even bother responding in the first place..
That's not my problem
They aren't risky words just because you don't understand them due to a language barrier or whatever other reason.
So better watch your language and don't use risky words.
That's not what obtuse means. Going by the dictionary definition is not always the right thing to do, as we've seen time and time again ITT. If you aren't fluent enough in English to not take everything in its literal context at least admit it form the get-go. You'll sound less silly. Offensive does not always mean it attacks you. Obtuse does not always mean dumb or stupid (actually I don't think it ever means that).
Believe it or not i had to look up the definition of that word "obtuse". means "stupid, numb, imbecile"
so much for not being rude i guess
it's alright, it's public forum.You can be obtuse all you want. The thread is still up, so anyone can view it.
- It already is a neutral color 🙂
it's understandable you don't like it but let's not generalize it and make up facts "I believe.. "
And that's fine. We all have preferences. I've listed actual reasons for why it would be better to opt for more neutral colors userbase- and OS cohesion-wise.
- well i like to call you a friend because i don't want you to think we are enemies just because we disagree over a piece of technology.
Yes, very much in the context you used above. It was a snide remark. Unnecessary to say the least.
You can't have a "maybe" in a fact, friend.
- i believe the way it is now is better.
it is more appropriate to have a different style. that color is no way an obstacle = - this is the fact too: people are more likely to want to try something new, maybe out of curiosity too.
Not in the context that i used above Actually it would be less appropriate. This is supposed to be a browser for all Windows users (eventually). I believe that my suggestion would make the browser better not just for me, but for the majority of other users for the reasons I listed above.
You can disagree with facts all you want, that does not in any way stop them from being facts.
"Since when trying to understand someone is rudeness?"
Since never. Trying to understand someone isn't rude, and I dare you to find me a quote where I said otherwise.
"in your language calling someone friend is rude?"
In my language, i.e. English, it is indeed rude to call someone a friend in certain contexts.
- Again it would be more appropriate if you only talked about yourself and do not go out of context to include "people" because it complicates thing.
there are trillions of colors in the world. it doesn't make sense when someone is used to only see one of them. how is that even possible? - Since when trying to understand someone is rudeness?
i'm not talking things out of context.
in your language calling someone friend is rude?
i disagree. that's not how probabilities work. people are more likely to want to try something new, maybe out of curiosity too. First of all I never said you're blind. Reread my comment. Second of all, you've been rude all along, so hypocrisy much? Even if I were rude, that would be in response to your rudeness. Letting you get a taste of your own medicine, if you will.
"what else am i supposed to do?"
Maybe read instead of taking things out of context?
A word can have multiple meanings, and those meanings change over time. That's how language works, friend (I'm sure you weren't being rude when you called me that, were you? 😉 ). Offensive doesn't always mean that it actually attacks you. A color can be offensive if it doesn't fit somewhere or if one is used to seeing a different color.
It's simple logic. People are a lot more likely to turn away from a browser if it has something they aren't used to that if it doesn't have it. This isn't subjective. It's how probabilities work.
- hah now i'm blind. so being rude is your last resort.
I'm not playing semantics game. doesn't matter how many times you say that.
Yeah? dictionary helps people understand words. what else am i supposed to do?
that's only your way of seeing it. things that are new to people are just new, not offensive.
offensive has its own set of meanings. You are not trying to understand me. You disagree with me, but instead of offering a counter argument you resort to playing a semantics game. Words have different meanings. You think that just because you found some dictionary that considers beige a neutral tone that somehow changes my point. Is that really something a person trying to understand you would do?
Back to the topic. By "people" I'm referring to people. Things people aren't used to are more offensive than things that people are used to. A beige UI tone is something people aren't used to in browsers. Still follow me? If not, then I give up. I don't know how else to explain it.
It's not just the New Tab page. You have to be blind to tell me that the rest of the UI (i.e. the tab bar, the bookmark bar, the settings page etc) isn't beige.