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UI
- Consistency on UI. Add Fluent design effects like shadows and highlight effects.
- Add History, Download, Favorites button on the top bar like in "old" EDGE.
- Add History, Download, Favorites on one place. One page with 3 tab maybe?
- Add a option to display the Open/Save as when download like "old" EDGE.
- Preview page when hovering it in app bar.
- The Account tab when press on the bar button is too small (on my device, Surface GO), the text is very small and almost not readble.
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So, looking through the comments to-date on this topic, the following appear now addressed:
"I hope that thumbnail previews on tabs would return"
Go to edge://flags in the address-bar, then turn-on both "Tab Hover Cards" and "Tab Hover Card Images", then restart Edge
"Add back the option to "Always clear this when I close the browser""
Menu > Settings > Privacy, search, and services > "Choose what to clear every time you close the browser"
"Add Dark Mode (ouch, my eyes!)"
Menu > Settings > Appearance > Default theme > change dropdown to "Dark"
Ones where workarounds are available:
"Add a option to display the Open/Save when download like "old" EDGE."
Menu > Settings > Downloads > "Ask me what to do with each download".
(Or right-click on specific download-links and choose "Save link as...")Ones I'd agree with:
"Preview page when hovering it in app bar"
I assume by "app bar" the user meant "the Windows Taskbar". If so, currently only the active tab will display a preview. I'd suggest changing this to follow the Start > Settings > System > Multi-tasking > "Pressing Alt + Tab shows" option the user has selected. So if they have selected "the 5 most recent tabs in Edge", then when they hover-over the Edge Taskbar tab, also show previews for the 5 most-recent tabs there too.
"Add History, Download, Favorites on one place. One page with 3 tab maybe?"
Currently for both Favourites and History they launch a pop-up window, and you can click the Pin icon to turn them into a side-panel, whereas Downloads only launches a new tab. I'd like to see a sidebar-style UI for all-three, along with a "Open in tab" button to launch a full-page UI version.
"... it would be great to have an option to auto-hide the scrollbar and only [show] the small bar when you scroll."
Given Edge is supposed to be seen as a built-in Windows 10 app, it should just honour this setting:
Start > Settings > Ease of Access > Display > "Automatically hide scroll bars in Windows""[Edge] settings integrated with the UI not as an HTML page"
On Windows 10 specifically, would it not make-sense to move the settings inside the Settings app, given Edge is supposed to be seen as a major, built-in component?
"So, lets play a game called: Which is the active tab?"
Yeah, currently Edge is awful at highlighting the active-tab, especially in the default dark-theme. IE11 used to do a much-better job at highlighting the active tab. I don't know why they don't just add a highlight strip at the top of the tab, and by-default make this match the accent colour you have selected in Windows 10, along with a "pick custom colour" option so other supported platforms (Win7/Win8.1/macOS/Linux) can customise this also.
- better design and colors.
Really like these suggestions. I would also like to bring back Edge Classic's reader mode, either as an extension or built into Edge. Having Favorites, Downloads and History open up in a pane with tabs would be great.
Please, also bring back tab previews. Give the user the option to choose between showing the tab preview on the taskbar, when hovering over tabs, both or none.
Miguel Ulloa
Miguel, if you are meaning Reading view, it IS, now, in Edge C; has been for a while, actually.
And, just introduced is Reading list... imported from Edge.
I have to agree, the approach to things (menus, structure, access) in Edge is preferred; somehow more intuitive in how it's organized or done.One thing, for me, is having items in ellipsis done as a new full window tab of its own... that seems ridiculous, to me; much prefer the Edge method in that regard.
Cheers,
DrewYea, "Immersive Reader" is available, but that doesn't mean Reader is. Not sure whether Miguel Ulloa meant that or not, but when I hear Reader, I mean the actual reader.
Sure, they added Inking to PDF reader, but (touch) scrolling is so unresponsive I just can't make myself switch. And that's just PDF reader. Where is e-books reader? The one made so nice in the old Edge? The one they are planning on deprecating soon, according to the notification it opens when opening e-books?
It was the biggest disappointment, since knowing Edge Dev will replace it soon, this pretty much means they don't even plan on adding it inside!
Things which made me love old Edge was Reading experience, be it on websites, PDFs, or e-books! Touch was so friendly and responsive, I just couldn't use anything else! And now, some things actually seem like they aren't even coming back.
It would also be good to implement Aero Peek feature again. It can be useful but long ago Google Chrome dropped the support for it. Maybe it's time for a comeback?
Maybe I used the wrong term.
Aero is not going anywhere - all the effects are still intact. Only transparency is missing but it can be re-enabled with the utility "Aero Glass for Win8+". Nobody removed Aero's code, including transparency. What I'm mentioning is previewing multiple tabs from the taskbar. Like in IE - open a couple of tabs then hover on the icon.
- The new Favorite button is a step in the right direction, but still not what we need. In the classic Edge the old panes (Favorite, History, Download, ect.) could be pinned to the side, this new flyout always disappear when click somewhere. We need the option to pin this flyout, but is even more important to have a pinnable flyout also for History and Download!
Damix Sadly I thing we're stuck with the "hey I'm not really Chrome (but I am)" design and UI but with some Windows icons. New Edge actually fits better into the design of Macs than it does on Windows. It is very easy (I have done this myself - I'm a developer) to make a window fit the themes of Win10, Win8x and Win7 so that it looks right on either one. I added it to one of our products in a morning.
This is a real shame as it looks like New Edge is simply going to offer the look, feel and functionality of Chrome with a few extensions loaded. MS could have done something special but they have taken the easy route. There will be no compelling reason for those that have Chrome installed to swap over - none at all.
As for removing a whole load of functionality - don't get me started! Perhaps if enough people don't use the new one they'll decide that Egde Classic was always better than New Edge (that's a joke).
They didn't remove anything. They're adding features, the new Edge is basically a clean slate.
- That's just semantics. You no longer have all the handy drawing and annotation tools that were available to you. It no longer works in tablet mode properly (back button leaves the application). You no longer have useful history and favorites fly outs. You can't easily pin pages to the start menu. It responds badly to non-standard (96) dpi settings. We are heading for the first beta version which means that we are stuck with the awful clumsy UI and a Microsoft application that looks more like Windows XP than Windows 10. It's amazing that it looks more in place on Macs than on Windows.
Now tell me things haven't gone away and aren't coming back. They have even resorted to cheating on screen shots on pages like https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-ca/whats-next in order to make the new Edge look more like the old one.
Damix Another thing to add: If the browser is opened and Dark Mode gets toggled, the browser's theme properly changes. However, this isn't true for the Console / Developer Tools (and maybe some other little components I haven't noticed) - it uses the previous theme until you close that sub-menu and open it up once again. It'd be great if this gets fixed as well, even if it is just a minor annoyance...
EDIT:
As of now, Settings and similar pages react the same way as the general UI when toggling Dark Mode - i.e., they properly transit from dark to light and reverse. However, Console and Developer Tools still need to be manually toggled (close them and then re-open them)!
- A complete new name to distant themselves from the old "Edge" might something to be considered my MS. The current Edge name is somewhat tainted. The current Edge has only a 4 percent share of the Browser Market. Only Opera is behind them. This new re-coded Chromium version is far superior to the old Edge (and even Chrome itself) that hopefully people's sour image of the old "Edge" or confusion of not realizing it had changed to a new source engine taints the browser from being used. For some people just hearing the name "Edge" will prevent them from trying it. Maybe a whole new name will have this new version stand on it's own, and distant itself from the old Edge. Even if it's a new variant of Edge name. Like "The Silver Edge" or "Edge Explorer" browser or something. Noticed how even though IE is long dead, it's still used by people and even out beat Edge in the usage polls, probably because of it's good past reputation and everyone associating IE to Microsoft where as Edge never really caught on. That's just my two cents for what it's worth if anything.
- Nadella was talking about "Intelligent Cloud and Intelligent Edge", so at least they could use that for marketing purposes. Cloud Explorer or literally Intelligent Edge (integrated image search, translation, collections, security etc), it would fit perfectly.
I'm also hoping they will redesign the icon/logo, because the current one is just terrible. They need to go back to the roots and use the IE logo as the foundation. Make something modern/fresh but with a hint of nostalgia.
A complete new name to distant themselves from the old "Edge" might be something for MS to consider to be in order. The current Edge is tarnished name wise. The current Edge has only a 4 percent share of the Browser Market. Only Opera is behind them. This new re-coded Chromium version is far superior to the old Edge (and even Chrome itself) that hopefully people's sour image of the old "Edge" or confusion of not realizing it had changed to a new source engine taints the browser from being used. For some people just hearing the name "Edge" will prevent them from trying it. Maybe a whole new name will have this new version stand on it's own, and distant itself from the old Edge. Even if it's a new variant of Edge name. Like "The Silver Edge" or "Edge Explorer" browser or something. Noticed how even though IE is long dead, it's still used by people and even out beat Edge in the usage polls, probably because of it's good past reputation and everyone associating IE to Microsoft where as Edge never really caught on. That's just my two cents for what it's worth if anything.
