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David Rubino
Sep 24, 2019Former Employee
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GraniteStateColin
Oct 10, 2019Steel Contributor
HotCakeX, you've made it clear that you're not a design guy, you're usage and feature guy. I totally get that. On balance, in spite of my comments here, I am too (that's why I massively prefer Windows to Mac, which does have a MUCH more consistent design aesthetic, but it's functionally limited compared to Windows, so I go for Windows). However, that doesn't mean that MS should IGNORE design. I don't think they set out to do that. They have announced their Fluent Design guidelines. The problem is that this new Edge doesn't follow their own rules, at least so far (maybe when it goes to public release this will change).
I think I may have failed to make my point: I'm not suggesting that there is one right design that would be everyone's favorite. But I am saying there are design laws that should be followed and only broken intentionally for specific artistic reasons (like when a poet misuses punctuation). Most people are not designers and don't care about this. You are clearly in that camp, and not a designer, which is fine. Most people are not.
What we see here is that Chromium Edge has its own designer who appears not to be beholden to MS design guidelines. I'm not saying his design is better or worse than the designer who established the Fluent Design guidelines (that part would be subjective). The fact that they are not in sync is objectively bad. I don't believe that's a matter of opinion. It's just wrong. Now, it's also not very serious, like a speeding ticket is a trivial crime compared with murder. This is a speeding ticket-level problem. It won't stop me from using the new Edge even if they never fix this, but that doesn't make it good.
Frankly, I suspect that the new Edge may actually be a sign of a new design direction that will be coming with Windows 10x and then rolling into Windows 10 generally. If that's the case (pure speculation on my part), that's also fine. Just make the browser consistent with the other MS products and OS.
I think I may have failed to make my point: I'm not suggesting that there is one right design that would be everyone's favorite. But I am saying there are design laws that should be followed and only broken intentionally for specific artistic reasons (like when a poet misuses punctuation). Most people are not designers and don't care about this. You are clearly in that camp, and not a designer, which is fine. Most people are not.
What we see here is that Chromium Edge has its own designer who appears not to be beholden to MS design guidelines. I'm not saying his design is better or worse than the designer who established the Fluent Design guidelines (that part would be subjective). The fact that they are not in sync is objectively bad. I don't believe that's a matter of opinion. It's just wrong. Now, it's also not very serious, like a speeding ticket is a trivial crime compared with murder. This is a speeding ticket-level problem. It won't stop me from using the new Edge even if they never fix this, but that doesn't make it good.
Frankly, I suspect that the new Edge may actually be a sign of a new design direction that will be coming with Windows 10x and then rolling into Windows 10 generally. If that's the case (pure speculation on my part), that's also fine. Just make the browser consistent with the other MS products and OS.
HotCakeX
Oct 10, 2019MVP
In contrary I love design.
I love design so much that sometimes I used the classic Edge instead of google chrome, because the UI is great. I'm talking about the transparency or Acrylic style, and the fluent design elements.
I don't use mac because It's not a good OS overall. the restricted hardware choice, poor compatibility and the overpriced products are the main reasons.
Edge insider's UI is not final right now, let's judge it once it is. lots of people asked for Acrylic style, the fluent design elements etc, they should apply it first and then we'll have a proper Microsoft product which also will be consistent 🙂
I love design so much that sometimes I used the classic Edge instead of google chrome, because the UI is great. I'm talking about the transparency or Acrylic style, and the fluent design elements.
I don't use mac because It's not a good OS overall. the restricted hardware choice, poor compatibility and the overpriced products are the main reasons.
Edge insider's UI is not final right now, let's judge it once it is. lots of people asked for Acrylic style, the fluent design elements etc, they should apply it first and then we'll have a proper Microsoft product which also will be consistent 🙂
- HotCakeXOct 17, 2019MVPIt's a known issue, it had been on Canary too but Canary got the fix now so the Dev channel must wait for its turn to get the fix as well (Dev gets updates every 7 days while Canary gets it daily).
so my suggestion is to switch over to Canary instead while this bug exists. I've been using Canary since Edge insider program started and it's been the Least painful channel ever. - Robin NilssonOct 17, 2019Bronze ContributorI've reported something similar as well - if I bring up a SharePoint page in IE Mode, I can't close the tab nor close the browser instance.
- Jeffrey AllenOct 17, 2019Silver Contributor
While I know this is the dev version and so can be buggy most versions have been a little bit more stable but with Version 79.0.301.2 (Official build) dev (64-bit), anytime I click on a SharePoint online site whether a regular SharePoint or an O365 group etc, the browser crashes and I have to launch the browser and I have to click restore open pages to get back to where I want to be. Is a fix for this coming soon????