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Top feedback summary for September 24
We don't know that Microsoft has forgotten about the UI, maybe like I said they are focusing more on the features and bugs than the UI, for now. they should prioritize thing of course.
So there is no serious problem unless it's confirmed, we haven't even received mixed signals about this issue to raise any concerns.
yeah it has 1 pixel or 2 left that's why it looks curvy. anyway I bet even if they release it like this to stable, it won't bother 99.999% of people because of this reason:
Opera creates a shiny browsers and even goes one step further and makes gaming browser which is only marketing names and nothing special. they are still at the bottom of the browser market share chart. the UI and all that time they spent on it didn't save them, so definitely this 1 pixel or 10 pixel won't save or hurt Microsoft Edge in any way. 🙂
- It's a known issue, it had been on Canary too but Canary got the fix now so the Dev channel must wait for its turn to get the fix as well (Dev gets updates every 7 days while Canary gets it daily).
so my suggestion is to switch over to Canary instead while this bug exists. I've been using Canary since Edge insider program started and it's been the Least painful channel ever. - I've reported something similar as well - if I bring up a SharePoint page in IE Mode, I can't close the tab nor close the browser instance.
While I know this is the dev version and so can be buggy most versions have been a little bit more stable but with Version 79.0.301.2 (Official build) dev (64-bit), anytime I click on a SharePoint online site whether a regular SharePoint or an O365 group etc, the browser crashes and I have to launch the browser and I have to click restore open pages to get back to where I want to be. Is a fix for this coming soon????
- In contrary I love design.
I love design so much that sometimes I used the classic Edge instead of google chrome, because the UI is great. I'm talking about the transparency or Acrylic style, and the fluent design elements.
I don't use mac because It's not a good OS overall. the restricted hardware choice, poor compatibility and the overpriced products are the main reasons.
Edge insider's UI is not final right now, let's judge it once it is. lots of people asked for Acrylic style, the fluent design elements etc, they should apply it first and then we'll have a proper Microsoft product which also will be consistent 🙂 - HotCakeX, you've made it clear that you're not a design guy, you're usage and feature guy. I totally get that. On balance, in spite of my comments here, I am too (that's why I massively prefer Windows to Mac, which does have a MUCH more consistent design aesthetic, but it's functionally limited compared to Windows, so I go for Windows). However, that doesn't mean that MS should IGNORE design. I don't think they set out to do that. They have announced their Fluent Design guidelines. The problem is that this new Edge doesn't follow their own rules, at least so far (maybe when it goes to public release this will change).
I think I may have failed to make my point: I'm not suggesting that there is one right design that would be everyone's favorite. But I am saying there are design laws that should be followed and only broken intentionally for specific artistic reasons (like when a poet misuses punctuation). Most people are not designers and don't care about this. You are clearly in that camp, and not a designer, which is fine. Most people are not.
What we see here is that Chromium Edge has its own designer who appears not to be beholden to MS design guidelines. I'm not saying his design is better or worse than the designer who established the Fluent Design guidelines (that part would be subjective). The fact that they are not in sync is objectively bad. I don't believe that's a matter of opinion. It's just wrong. Now, it's also not very serious, like a speeding ticket is a trivial crime compared with murder. This is a speeding ticket-level problem. It won't stop me from using the new Edge even if they never fix this, but that doesn't make it good.
Frankly, I suspect that the new Edge may actually be a sign of a new design direction that will be coming with Windows 10x and then rolling into Windows 10 generally. If that's the case (pure speculation on my part), that's also fine. Just make the browser consistent with the other MS products and OS. - Spoiler
GraniteStateColin wrote:
HotCakeX, just to clarify: I'm referring to aesthetic design, not human factor usage. For human factor usage, that should incorporate user feedback. It's the aesthetic component for which a "vote" is not relevant. Just as great artists don't should ever ask his or her patrons to vote on how to paint, a great designer should not.I simply don't think everybody's mind is the same. aestheticism may be depicted different in people's mind and that's fundamentally because everybody don't think the same way.
and since Edge browser isn't about aesthetics and only about human factor usage, the votes and feedbacks are necessary instead of one person making decisions for everybody.
HotCakeX, just to clarify: I'm referring to aesthetic design, not human factor usage. For human factor usage, that should incorporate user feedback. It's the aesthetic component for which a "vote" is not relevant. Just as great artists don't ask patrons to vote on how to paint, a great designer should not ask for a vote on that screen art.
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GraniteStateColin wrote:
HotCakeX, on this (voting on design preferences), I strongly disagree. Design should NEVER be up for a vote or decided by committee. There should be a good, strong designer who has the power to establish design guidelines. That person should seek lots of input and observe actual usage to ensure design is supporting good UI, but ultimately there needs to be a person or very, very small team authorized to make decisions specifically to ensure consistency. Otherwise, you get, well, what MS has now -- design chaos. Any one style would be better than that mess.Let's not make self-created rules, it's all either your opinion or mine, there isn't any rule that says one person should create a design for everyone. and there is no chaos, even if there is, those few pixels aren't the cause.
- HotCakeX, on this (voting on design preferences), I strongly disagree. Design should NEVER be up for a vote or decided by committee. There should be a good, strong designer who has the power to establish design guidelines. That person should seek lots of input and observe actual usage to ensure design is supporting good UI, but ultimately there needs to be a person or very, very small team authorized to make decisions specifically to ensure consistency. Otherwise, you get, well, what MS has now -- design chaos. Any one style would be better than that mess.
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GraniteStateColin wrote:
HotCakeX, I really do mostly agree with you on this. Chromium Edge is already my favorite browser and I'll keep using it regardless of the curved tabs. But in addition to agreeing with you on getting the features right, I do want MS to get the design right, intuitive layout is probably most important to me, followed by UI consistency, as a very close second. Good design requires consistency to be good.I still think they should put it up for vote or receive lots of feedback from users to see which design they prefer. simply talking about philosophy of consistency and dictating to people what is better for them not gonna work.
