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MissyQ Also I'll paste this message with every time you renew this page since you guys don't care.
Now Edge has released officially and I'm still waiting for:
- Ask users if they want to close all tabs when they close a browser window (Like in Firefox, IE and many others)
- Middle Mouse Clicks to open new tabs when clicked on the tabs bar (Like in Firefox)
- Move the opened tabs to the bookmarks toolbar by just dragging them with the mouse (Like in Firefox)
- Built-in Ad-Blocker (Like in Opera)
- Built-in VPN (Like in Opera)
- Importing from Firefox (Which doesn't exists on 90% of the machines I've tried) which is a MAJOR bug!! It's basically the first step I'm going to do "when" I move to Edge !!
So I'm not moving to Edge until these are added/fixed.. and trust me I want to move to Edge because I use almost all Microsoft products including Windows Defender,OneDrive, Office 356 and more! And everything is synced into my Microsoft account! And Edge is great so far and I want it to be synced too! But not perfect since these things and more are missing!
They should be very very simple to add since they exists in Firefox like a decade and half ago... (Except for Ad-Blocker & VPN which exists in the useless Opera for years!)
But looks like Edge still have years to be "near" perfect since you guys don't care much, and until then I see 0 reasons to use it and 0 reasons to change Firefox.
Omar-Os The VPN will probably not be build-in in the the browser. I think there is a VPN already in the Windows 10 OS.
Please refer to https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/20510/windows-10-connect-to-vpn
matt_bits wrote:The VPN will probably not be build-in in the the browser. I think there is a VPN already in the Windows 10 OS.
Please refer to https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/20510/windows-10-connect-to-vpn
It's VPN support, not VPN (i.e VPN connectivity, VPN server, user/pass etc)
All OSes have VPN protocols support more or less. IOS, OSX, Windows, Android, Linux etc.
I agree with some of your points, but you need to remember that everybody here has a different environment and different use case. There is no one-size-fits-all. That's why browsers like Vivaldi exist, to cater to a very specific group.
I personally manage browser security (amongst many other things) at a company with 8000 workstations and 1500 servers. Keeping everything working and everybody happy is a big job, especially when I need to support every major browser.
There are many features that exist in Chrome/Firefox/Opera etc. that should also exist in Edge, just to satisfy the user's expectations. We don't want people to try Edge and then move back to another browser because of a stupid minor issue.
On your comments:
- Confirmation on closing multiple tabs is definitely needed.
- Middle mouse clicks - I don't think many people even know this exists, let alone have a mouse with a middle button
- Dragging to the bookmarks bar - only advanced firefox users will know about this one
- Ad-blocker - Edge's built in blocker is WAY BETTER than the other browsers, and the privacy dashboard is great. There are 100 plugins available if you want something more granular.
- VPN - The last thing I want is my users opening VPN sessions to third party servers, in order to circumvent our internal security. Opera is the only browser to support this, with 2% market share. There are many other missing features with a higher priority, and I definitely want a policy to disable it, should it ever be introduced.
- Firefox importing - I agree that it doesn't always find Firefox profiles to import, but this is something that is difficult to reproduce. If it finds the profile, importing is perfect.
No browser is perfect, but Edge has a strong community with a lot of good ideas. I'm personally pushing the Edge Dev Team for a ton of missing management policies, which are no use to home users. Its for them to decide where their priorities are, and which features should be added first.
It's good to be specific when things like Firefox import doesn't work.
I asked him multiple times but he didn't give me any specific version.
if Firefox import doesn't work for you, could you mention which version of Edge and Firefox you tried on?
right now at this moment, on latest version of both browsers, try it and see if it works. I did, multiple times on different machines and it worked every time.
so you do the same and report back
- Spoiler
Omar-Os wrote:MissyQ Also I'll paste this message with every time you renew this page since you guys don't care.
Now Edge has released officially and I'm still waiting for:
- Ask users if they want to close all tabs when they close a browser window (Like in Firefox, IE and many others)
- Middle Mouse Clicks to open new tabs when clicked on the tabs bar (Like in Firefox)
- Move the opened tabs to the bookmarks toolbar by just dragging them with the mouse (Like in Firefox)
- Built-in Ad-Blocker (Like in Opera)
- Built-in VPN (Like in Opera)
- Importing from Firefox (Which doesn't exists on 90% of the machines I've tried) which is a MAJOR bug!! It's basically the first step I'm going to do "when" I move to Edge !!So I'm not moving to Edge until these are added/fixed.. and trust me I want to move to Edge because I use almost all Microsoft products including Windows Defender,OneDrive, Office 356 and more! And everything is synced into my Microsoft account! And Edge is great so far and I want it to be synced too! But not perfect since these things and more are missing!
They should be very very simple to add since they exists in Firefox like a decade and half ago... (Except for Ad-Blocker & VPN which exists in the useless Opera for years!)
But looks like Edge still have years to be "near" perfect since you guys don't care much, and until then I see 0 reasons to use it and 0 reasons to change Firefox.- Firefox Import works. Both Microsoft and Mozilla have added support for each others' browsers, and not only stable, but also experimental channels. I have successfully Imported from Firefox 74/75 to Edge Canary 81/82.
- Edge has adblocker, in fact it's better than adblocker, it's a malware-blocker, miner-blocker, fingerprinting-blocker and more. edge://settings/privacy
- https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2019/12/03/improving-tracking-prevention-microsoft-edge-79/
- Ask users if they want to close all tabs when they close a browser window
- Opera VPN is lame when the network is using DPI and other stronger anti-censorship technique, personally tested. also the speed is too low. TOR is better and more secure.
- Also you might wanna read this article, it'll change your view on VPNs...
- https://www.privacytools.io/providers/vpn/
- 1- No it doesn't work, I tested it on like 20 machines that has different Windows and different editions of Edge and it's just not in the import list.
2/3- No it doesn't work at all, all ads are there, this is not an ad-blocker.
4- Yeah I commented there, they are acting like it's not important at all....
5/6- Then we need a strong and efficient one, I don't mean that we need one exactly like Opera's ! Opera is **bleep** anyway.- Spoiler
Omar-Os wrote:
1- No it doesn't work, I tested it on like 20 machines that has different Windows and different editions of Edge and it's just not in the import list.
2/3- No it doesn't work at all, all ads are there, this is not an ad-blocker.
4- Yeah I commented there, they are acting like it's not important at all....
5/6- Then we need a strong and efficient one, I don't mean that we need one exactly like Opera's ! Opera is **bleep** anyway.1. Which Firefox versions did you try on? which Edge versions? need to be more specific
2. it does, set it to strict. it doesn't obviously block ads on YouTube video and things like that, that's the job of extensions like ublock origin. Opera doesn't do that either.
4. many of us commented as well, if they don't reply to each comment one by one it doesn't mean they don't care.
5. there is already a stronger one. use TOR, use this extension to use TOR network on Chromium based browsers.
