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Top feedback summary for December 3
jraff
Well, here is a sort of compromise. Use Bing.com as Start-up page & or Home page and make the/its Address Bar whatever SE you want. Just a thought... Same photo, nice top bar menu items & Feeds @ the bottom. Good customiseable Settings in the hamburger.
Cheers,
Drew
Drew1903 wrote:Well, here is a sort of compromise. Use Bing.com as Start-up page & or Home page and make the/its Address Bar whatever SE you want.
Honestly the address bar should be like Firefox, allowing user to change search engine on the fly without the need to go to settings page or set Bing as homepage which is something that is unpleasant for non-US residents because Microsoft products always have more features for the US residents than people in the rest of the world.
it's like that in a wide variety of the Microsoft products.
- Graham-STMCDec 08, 2019Steel Contributor
HotCakeX Regarding Microsoft providing more non-US based content...
I think Microsoft is getting much better at supporting non-US markets. Certainly as far as the UK is concerned Microsoft offer some of the best UK-English services compared with the likes of Apple and Google.
A small example - using Microsoft's SwiftKey keyboard on my main Android mobile works a treat, but using 'UK English' with G-Board on my spare Android phone results in American English spellings being suggested before UK English ones. This is really frustrating, not to mention making life difficult for those learning English in the UK.
I believe the cultural differences in language are very important, and have noticed particularly recently that things are beginning to slip, often reading 'traveling' instead of 'travelling' or 'spelled' instead of 'spelt.' (I accept that language changes all the time, and that English of all variants is particularly fluid, or perhaps it is my age making me more sensitive than I should be?)
The same applies to Apple as well - the news app on my MacBook is horrendously America-centric, whereas the Microsoft News App can be tailored to suit the UK and even provide news from local newspapers too.
- Drew1903Dec 09, 2019Silver Contributor
Graham-STMC
Graham, I'll agree. Certainly, it's excellent (& easy) the local, provincial & national focus we have in Canada. Doesn't matter how physically close, still, non-US. Anyway, it is true it is better than back in the day, by a long shot. One can, also, notice that the coverage or support is wider out-of-the-box... used to be regions & languages tended to expand after release. Now, there are (heaps) more at release time. And, yes, there are more than ever & that keeps growing, will keep growing.
It's self-defeating & counter-productive for people to have available internet and not in a language they know. Or can't talk to Cortana due to a language barrier; Supposed to be in the name of communication. And if ones OS is in a certain language, certainly want the browser the same way, too.
I will repeat something, though... When MS is doing lab work on betas, testing, stuff will be US-centric & (US) English; at least at the onset... that may expand, even, whilst (still) in beta.
Cheers,
Drew- Graham-STMCDec 09, 2019Steel Contributor
Drew1903 HotCakeX Fair points. I am aware more people in the world speak Spanish or Chinese than English. Microsoft is a US based company, it is fair to expect that their products and services are initially produced and developed in US English, but it does seem to be a cultural hang-up of the US in general, possibly linked to current political leadership, that the US focuses on its own navel first. In the UK there are campaigns to keep Welsh and Gaelic (Scottish) alive. Let's hope that with more involvement from insiders more services featuring cultural variations and languages will be supported in time.
- HotCakeXDec 09, 2019MVPSpoiler
Graham-STMC wrote:HotCakeX Regarding Microsoft providing more non-US based content...
I think Microsoft is getting much better at supporting non-US markets. Certainly as far as the UK is concerned Microsoft offer some of the best UK-English services compared with the likes of Apple and Google.
A small example - using Microsoft's SwiftKey keyboard on my main Android mobile works a treat, but using 'UK English' with G-Board on my spare Android phone results in American English spellings being suggested before UK English ones. This is really frustrating, not to mention making life difficult for those learning English in the UK.
I believe the cultural differences in language are very important, and have noticed particularly recently that things are beginning to slip, often reading 'traveling' instead of 'travelling' or 'spelled' instead of 'spelt.' (I accept that language changes all the time, and that English of all variants is particularly fluid, or perhaps it is my age making me more sensitive than I should be?)
The same applies to Apple as well - the news app on my MacBook is horrendously America-centric, whereas the Microsoft News App can be tailored to suit the UK and even provide news from local newspapers too.
UK don't really count because they are using English as well 🙂
Swiftkey on Android is probably the only Microsoft product that has full multilingual support and even supports all the rare locales, dialects etc.
the majority of the world speak other languages natively. in Europe, English is no more the dominant language since UK left EU.
apart from US and UK, there are 200 other countries that should be paid attention to.
Even Bing rewards differ hugely when you compare UK with US rewards, the rest of the world have less reward options to choose from and less ways to earn points.
Sent from Android mobile
- josh_bodnerDec 05, 2019Former Employee
HotCakeX if you've visited a search engine before and it's installed itself in your list of search engines, you should be able to use its keyword to search from it in the address bar regardless of what your default search engine is set to.
- HotCakeXDec 06, 2019MVP
josh_bodner wrote:HotCakeX if you've visited a search engine before and it's installed itself in your list of search engines, you should be able to use its keyword to search from it in the address bar regardless of what your default search engine is set to.
Thank you, that's a very underrated feature, i don't think most users are even aware of it