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To Clarify Betas as Default vs Non-beta.
Drew1903 "Now we have Edge Chromium Channels; 2 now & soon, 3. They are all betas!"
In the strict technical sense, Drew, you are correct. Traditional software development nomenclature describes in-house testing versions of developing software as "alpha" and developing software distributed to an outside group for testing as "beta". Beta software used to be distributed only to developers, reserving "near final" releases for testing by a more general population of outside testers.
In more recent times, Microsoft and Google started to use outsiders to test software at earlier stages in the development process, using outsiders to do much of the "alpha" work that was previously done in-house. While that saves Microsoft and Google a lot of money, that also renders the strict technical sense of "alpha" and "beta" less meaningful and less important.
I've read the same comments you have on this Forum, comments to the effect that "Edge Chromium is alpha software at this point ...", meaning that the builds are as buggy as can be and nowhere near ready for prime time release. I don't have a problem with that. Language changes over time, and given the new protocols of software testing, releasing software to outside testing at stages when it would have formerly been considered "alpha" and testing in-house, I suspect that it is the strict technical nomenclature that is out of whack with reality, not the colloquial sense used in this forum.
"Some of us suspect the 'real' (new) Edge to be pushed out w/ 1909."
Edge Chromium is not, to my knowledge, baked into 19H2 at this point, and that release is, according to Microsoft, scheduled for wrap-up next month. Nothing, as far as I know, suggests that 19H2 is going to include Edge Chromium. What are you seeing that the rest of us (including the trade press) are not?
If Microsoft intends to roll out Edge Chromium with 19H2, Microsoft had better get busy if it wants to avoid serious and accurate criticism about a botched release. The versions we are testing are not ready for prime time. Do you really think that Microsoft will have Edge Chromium ready to go in less than a month?
tomscharbach
Tom, precisely due to what stage things are at, now... I suggested there is no way it would be ready before 1909. I am not "seeing" anything, it's a hunch. I, also, thought, on the occasions where this was being discussed, I had said or meant to imply, not before 1909 & maybe, after. And 1909 goes out in October so, maybe. Excuse if you misunderstood, I have never said along w/ 1909 was etched in stone, just a possibility... Mostly, it was telling people that Edge C would definitely NOT be anything before the Fall, at least. I recall at the same times reminding people the Beta Channel isn't even available, yet, when they have asked, "When will this browser be released?"
Cheers,
Drew
Drew1903 Sorry, I did misunderstand, apparently. I thought you were suggesting that Edge Chromium would be released with 19H1: "Some of us suspect the 'real' (new) Edge to be pushed out w/ 1909."
Obviously, that is not going to be the case. The first Beta channel version hasn't been released yet, and since Microsoft seems to anticipate several Beta updates ("https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/"), there just aren't enough days in the calendar for Edge Chromium to be "pushed out w/ 1909", whether or not it is part of the 19H1 release or independent. Even if there are only two Beta updates, that pushes the earliest possible release date into mid-November.
I personally hope that Microsoft takes its time and doesn't push Edge Chromium out until it is 100% ready. There is no particular urgency, and I don't think that Edge Chromium will survive if the product is not fully featured and working perfectly, both for consumers, and more importantly perhaps, for business and enterprise users. Edge Chromium has to be flawless when released. EdgeHTML got an early reputation for problems and it never recovered. Microsoft can't afford that this time around.
- True, did write, suspect not, would be.
As for your 2nd paragraph, I absolutely agree 100%. It is the only way it should be.
And, since we, really, don't know the time span, I, honestly just try to offer some kind of response to all those asking, “When, when, when??”
Cheers,
Drew
Sent from Windows PhoneDrew1903 "And, since we, really, don't know the time span, I, honestly just try to offer some kind of response to all those asking, “When, when, when??”
How about "I don't know. "