Forum Discussion
Timeline!!
- Jun 03, 2019
sambul95
Sam,
You are mixing apples & oranges. Browser History and having the browser work with Windows 10 Timeline are 2 (very) different things. Sure, one can hold the back button to see past visits & manage that; nothing new.
Timeline is more about the OS than, the browser. It's a Feature of Win10 not, of the browser The browser just has to be compatible with it.
But, Win10 Timeline exists & works, inherently not, 'forced', with the default browser as part of the OS. It can go back a long way (in time), show heaps more activities (than browser history) and one can, actually, 'see' those sites rather than just a list. Plus, there is how one can handle what shows in Timeline, the 'controls' or 'tools' it has AND its search ability. Lastly, it is a nice help when navigating across multiple desktops.
Anyway, the point is, Win10 Timeline works with Edge. But, right now (hopefully this changes, soon!), Timeline will not work with Edge C without adding an extension from the Chrome store. Having to do that should not be necessary any more than it is w/ Edge.
Sure Timeline is browser history, BUT, it is far more than what the back button gives❗ If Win10 offers one all the neat stuff it does, one may as well, actually, use the stuff & be able to use it.
Cheers,
Drew
sambul95
Sam,
You are mixing apples & oranges. Browser History and having the browser work with Windows 10 Timeline are 2 (very) different things. Sure, one can hold the back button to see past visits & manage that; nothing new.
Timeline is more about the OS than, the browser. It's a Feature of Win10 not, of the browser The browser just has to be compatible with it.
But, Win10 Timeline exists & works, inherently not, 'forced', with the default browser as part of the OS. It can go back a long way (in time), show heaps more activities (than browser history) and one can, actually, 'see' those sites rather than just a list. Plus, there is how one can handle what shows in Timeline, the 'controls' or 'tools' it has AND its search ability. Lastly, it is a nice help when navigating across multiple desktops.
Anyway, the point is, Win10 Timeline works with Edge. But, right now (hopefully this changes, soon!), Timeline will not work with Edge C without adding an extension from the Chrome store. Having to do that should not be necessary any more than it is w/ Edge.
Sure Timeline is browser history, BUT, it is far more than what the back button gives❗ If Win10 offers one all the neat stuff it does, one may as well, actually, use the stuff & be able to use it.
Cheers,
Drew
If a certain shortcut, feature, or setting was present in Edge Classic, it doesn't make a sufficient argument to bring it to Edge Chromium. Can the exact same Timeline be accessed from Windows? If YES, why access it from the browser? Because webpages as screenshots look more recognizable? Well, possibly...
Btw Timeline means storing your life info on MS Cloud. Many folks use PC while always disconnected from MS account. Hence they hardly need Timeline shortcuts. It may scare from Edge C privacy concerned users. In addition, duplicate shortcuts to OS features don't give any benefits, just clutter the UI.
Well, MS wants users keeping their life info in the cloud, claiming - its for user benefits, but at times giving no opt out. Users are pushing back, like you see with rejection of new OneNote, or sticking to Win 7. Privacy is valuable for most.
- Drew1903Jun 03, 2019Silver Contributor
You may be suffering from a few misunderstandings.
To repeat, there is NO shortcut, as you put it, in the browser or something to add clutter to any browser UI. Timeline is part of the OS, NOT of a browser. Right now, it works natively with Edge. It is highly likely by the time Edge C is released it will, also. (without needing to add an extension, same as Edge, now) Especially, since Edge C will be the OS's default browser, same as Edge is, now.
Have no idea where you are getting your information.
People are very enthusiastic about One Note! Being able to use Add notes, Share and OneNote is super important to many/most people.
Clinging on to Win7 is/is going to be no more sensible, justifiable or intelligent than clinging on to XP.
And, the truth is, the fact is, MOST people DO use and realize the value of using their MS Account.
We will use local accounts whilst setting up machines for clients. They go to MS Accounts once in the customer's hands. That is a time when functioning under a local account makes sense. Not, daily use. And, anyone who does, we try to have them stop. Though, we encounter them very rarely. And a local account is no help if and when working across multiple devices.
Nor is "the Cloud" an issue. We have been using the cloud for years. We have been calling it "the Internet".
Cheers,
Drew
Sent from my Windows Phone- sambul95Jun 03, 2019Iron Contributor
Oh, did you mean including browsing history into Timeline? This of course will be done, for some reason I thought you suggest adding a Timeline shortcut to browser.
You never use VPN - do you? You feel I'm suffering from something, but we seems to have totally different privacy habits and what MS calls "user experience". 😉 You believe the entire web is a cloud, it may be of sort. The difference is whether your personal life is part of that cloud, and can be perused at will by anyone having access to it. Some don't like it - and other don't care.
You think that everything MS offers is great and deserves heavy use, but many folks think some things are great, and other are way too invasive or useless. You test what MS offers to test, but many folks heavily mod stuff to fit their needs or remove junk and clutter. Like OneNote - vast majority of users reject the MS ultimatum of storing private notes on the MS Cloud, or going away - just read any OneNote forum. Its former team was dismantled, and now small group is working on it, and almost no-one using it from those who still enjoy OneNote 2016, except on mobile.
Yes, sync is great for some things. But there is a limit of sync usability. OneNote on a phone or tablet doesn't need wealth of info some folks store in their PC notes. It just needs a small subset of short on-the-go topics. Folks also don't use a mobile browser with the same intensity, long time and broad topics spectrum they use PC browser. Enterprise admins say on forums they'll never move to OneNote on MS Cloud, as sharing company secrets with Microsoft is not in their plans, and MS has no right to give such ultimatums, especially claiming user interest as the reason despite loud users protests.
Hence there is no need to have exact same copy of favorites on each device, just a small on-the-go subset on mobile. That goes for EVERYTHING. Absolutely no need to sync all your junk on all devices, only a subset of things that fits the device purpose and use pattern. Especially true, there isn't a shred of sense in keeping one's entire passwords set on someone's cloud server - this is just insane, but some folks do it just because they're offered to.
- Rohit YadavJun 04, 2019Bronze Contributor
sambul95 I don't know what you know exactly, but man, there is an option to not to sync your data to cloud, in Timeline.
This option allows you, not to sync data to your so called, MS cloud...
And I do not get exactly what you mean by cloud, privacy and so on. Timeline never forces you to sync the data at once, unless you allow it to.
And other part, all the services are getting on cloud, and delivering new experiences. If you have used Chrome, Firefox or Edge, you must have synced data between devices, which has cloud as the mid point already. So Timeline is just a smart way of accessing you history with more features. If you still don't want to access it then you can turn it off.
And you know already how much data you're sharing with Google, that's nothing to be told if you use Chrome or Android, unless you explicitly turn it off.
There's nothing to panic man!