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jtcbrown
Oct 26, 2023Brass Contributor
Stop forcing us to use Edge.
I should NEVER be told, by Microsoft or anyone, which browser to use. I should NEVER log on to Windows, to find Edge open and running, and set to my default browser. Get it through your heads...
jtcbrown
Nov 03, 2023Brass Contributor
Yes, I can - but again, no program should take over as default without me directing Windows to do so. Not even at time of a manual install; it should ask.
Fixing this wasn't that hard. But should not have been necessary, and again this speaks back to all the antitrust stuff with IE, and to how malware distribution works.
They keep trying to force us to use Edge, via garbage policies and shady practices, and I am going to speak out against it, every time.
Fixing this wasn't that hard. But should not have been necessary, and again this speaks back to all the antitrust stuff with IE, and to how malware distribution works.
They keep trying to force us to use Edge, via garbage policies and shady practices, and I am going to speak out against it, every time.
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Nov 03, 2023I understand you a bit, but an experienced IT professional knows that Windows needs to be maintained and updated in the default environment, i.e. using default settings and Bing (now Bing AI).
These are automatically enforced technical requirements, and they really are necessary!
Third-party browsers use the same Windows defaults.
So Microsoft secures your network connections and what is a problem for you ->is a must!
- laytonmillerFeb 08, 2024Copper ContributorThis kind of thinking is why Microsoft lags behind in user satisfaction.
If "IT Professionals" were good at their jobs, they'd have ways to keep users safe around security that are transparent to users. No, using Bing as a search engine is not "necessary". No, using Edge is not "necessary". Every other aspect of user security works the same way - protect the user from themselves by providing guard rails, but do it *transparently* allowing them to go about their daily business. A Windows update shouldn't result in the user having to spend 15 minutes trying to figure out how to un-cluster-f their OS from a bunch of changes made without their consent. It destroys trust, alienates them as a user, and pisses them off. It's also massively condescending to a user to tell them that "we know better than you" around security or anything else for that matter - if you "know better", then "do better" by doing this in a better way.
They have always made the claim that this is about security, but it isn't. Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Brave, and a whole host of other browsers are totally safe and reputable ways to use the internet. Any argument to the contrary is either utterly misinformed, or partisan shenanigans. I've been a web architect for over 15 years, the arguments for this do not stand up to scrutiny and are based on tribalism, business bottom-line-arguments, or incompetence in implementation by Microsoft and/or IT teams. - jtcbrownNov 03, 2023Brass ContributorMicrosoft can update my PC just fine without setting my default browser to Edge, or my default search to Bing.
I reject that answer entirely, sorry.- jtcbrownNov 03, 2023Brass ContributorI mean, if I had in fact gotten some malware that MS was removing, and thus resetting to defaults, OK, fine.
Google Chrome is not malware, nor is Google Search as my default search engine.- DeletedNov 03, 2023
Well , Google Chrome It has other settings that need to be synced after updating Edge, if Windows was the furious creator of Google Chrome then he wouldn't have to use Edge for basic Windows updates and maintenance.
After all, updates have to be downloaded from Microsoft's servers via Edge, why do you think?