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Hey, everyone! Thanks so much for this discussion, we've learned a lot from your comments. We'd like to first make it clear that we do not plan to integrate Google services into Microsoft Edge by default. We are considering including an opt-in experience for users to attach their Google account to Microsoft Edge but are not ready to make a decision on it just yet.
I'd like to take this time to reiterate what Elliot posted back in November: One option available to you today to use a single user identifier across the various services you use is to create a new Microsoft Account using a @gmail address.
As you know, you can currently import your data from Chrome by going to edge://settings/importData. You can also sign into Google websites and remember your password in Microsoft Edge to reduce the number of times you need to sign in. Accessing your Microsoft Edge data on-the-go is easily done by signing into Microsoft Edge with a Microsoft account and syncing with Microsoft Edge across other devices and mobile.
As always, we will update here once we have more information. Please continue to provide your feedback and suggestions around this feature; the team will continue to review feedback even if we have moved something to Not Planned.
There's been a lot of feedback on both sides here, but at the very least it's clear that this is extremely controversial and you should think hard if and how you do it. Honestly nobody knows the full makeup or views of the majority Edge users more than Microsoft. The people here are a self selecting group.
That said, a few things stand out to me:
- Microsoft spent a substantial amount of time REMOVING Google services from Chromium.
- Adding it back in a way that reintroduces ANY possibility of unwanted Google data collection would be counter to this effort.
- The people who know about the effort to remove Google services from Edge are clearly very excited that Microsoft did this, and many people likely use Edge specifically because of this. I am one of those people.
- Let's be honest though - most people probably use Edge for the same reason they used IE - it was the default of their computer. These people probably don't know its even possible to sign into Chrome, how to synchronize bookmarks to a phone, or what Chrome even is.
It is just not clear to me what the benefit of signing into Google sync is.
You can use Gmail, YouTube, etc on Edge just fine by signing into those websites. If people want full Google integration, there is literally a browser meant for that. Chrome. They should use Chrome. Why are they on Edge?
Maybe the reason is to use Edge on the desktop but to get it to sync to your Android phone? Or for people who can't install Chrome at work but want Edge to stay in sync with their personal computer? These sound like edge cases (pun intended) and should be addressed with an extension. Perhaps it should be an extension for Chrome or Android to update with Microsoft services data, not an extension in Edge to add Google data. Perhaps the same should exist for iCloud/Safari (if that's even possible). I just don't understand why someone would be adamant about using Edge while also only syncing via a Google account. You have an import process on first run. Who are you trying to woo over that would require exclusively Google sync? Don't make any changes until you fully understand the answer to this question.
If the concern is people want their bookmarks or tabs on their phone, the solution isn't to add Google sync, its to make Edge on mobile (and Edge sync) attractive enough to get people to use it on other devices. If you do integrate Google sync, I would integrate MANY sync services. Google, iCloud, Mozilla, etc. Make it standardized on how it handles the problem, as well as sandboxed in what it can do. Don't just add Google services back to Chrome. Add a bridge for syncing data over a contained and limited process so Google can't retroactively get their tentacles into Edge users, and so privacy supporters don't feel deterred by the addition.
This strikes me as the perfect scenario for an extension or a sandboxed "generic sync services" option. Not for reGoogling Edge.
Summary:
-People want google sign in.
-Other people strongly disagree.
-Other people are actively hostile agents the idea.
-People are proposing opt-in or an extension.
-People are continuing to strongly disagree.
-People are unable to reach a decision.
That seem right?
Yes, I've seen the message about it being "Not Planned" and I've seen the other requests for an extension. I was just adding my thoughts - Microsoft says they monitor this for the future even after deciding against a feature.
Passwords, settings and autofill aside, we're talking about literally synchronizing a series of organized URLs: bookmarks, open tabs, history, extensions. There's no reason this can't be done in a sandboxed extension or generic sync option with severely restricted capabilities outside of that one function.
It's the Google integration into the core code of the browser that has people up in arms. Without clearly defined restrictions and sandboxing, just making it "opt-in" isn't comforting enough for people trying to avoid the most adept internet spying company in the world.
Of course, I'm assuming Microsoft cares about the pro-privacy market. Literally the only reason I'm using Edge is because it's not Google. It's entirely possible Microsoft just wants market share, and will be happy to tell me to use Safari or Firefox for privacy.
Wyatt C Jackson Yep. Just add
- microsoft says that they won't be adding this in anytime soon if at all
- people still continue to argue
- some people want it
- some people don't mind
- others are completely against it
- everyone seems to forget that it isn't happening
- repeat
