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MicrosoftSign in with a Google account - Discussion
Thanks for your feedback requesting the ability to sign in with a consumer Google account. From what we’re hearing, you’d like the ability to bring over data from Chrome, use your Google services and keep Microsoft Edge and Chrome in sync.
While we recognize this need, we’re currently focused on creating great 1st party account experiences with your Microsoft account and Work or School account. We appreciate the feedback around supporting signing in with other providers such as Google and will be taking this under consideration. One option available to you now would be to create a new Microsoft Account using your @gmail address, which would allow you to use a single user identifier across the various services you use.
Today, you can import your data from Chrome by going to edge://settings/importData for a one time import. You can also sign into Google websites and remember your password in Microsoft Edge to reduce the number of times you need to sign into these websites. And you can access your Microsoft Edge data on the go by signing into Microsoft Edge with a Microsoft account and syncing with Microsoft Edge Mobile apps and Microsoft Edge on other devices.
We will keep you updated as we further explore support for other sign-in providers in Microsoft Edge as well, it is on our roadmap.
Hey, everyone! Thanks so much for this discussion, we've learned a lot from your comments. We'd like to first make it clear that we do not plan to integrate Google services into Microsoft Edge by default. We are considering including an opt-in experience for users to attach their Google account to Microsoft Edge but are not ready to make a decision on it just yet.
I'd like to take this time to reiterate what Elliot posted back in November: One option available to you today to use a single user identifier across the various services you use is to create a new Microsoft Account using a @gmail address.
As you know, you can currently import your data from Chrome by going to edge://settings/importData. You can also sign into Google websites and remember your password in Microsoft Edge to reduce the number of times you need to sign in. Accessing your Microsoft Edge data on-the-go is easily done by signing into Microsoft Edge with a Microsoft account and syncing with Microsoft Edge across other devices and mobile.
As always, we will update here once we have more information. Please continue to provide your feedback and suggestions around this feature; the team will continue to review feedback even if we have moved something to Not Planned.
Hi Elliot Kirk
Please consider Not adding Google services. you have spent so much time removing Google stuff from Chromium, it doesn't make sense to add them back.
Only do it if and only if Google add sign-in using Microsoft account to their Chrome browser.
I bet they are not even thinking about it let alone putting it for a debate. you guys are really awesome for that and you know better than me that people with Google account can easily sign up for a Microsoft account without even needing to create a new Email address.
also there are facts like this.
Google Quietly Removes "Don't Be Evil" Preface From Code of Conduct
How do I protect my online privacy from 'surveillance capitalism'?
I don't want to Give a Data Mining company such as Google yet more information.
many of us use Microsoft products for a reason and that is to get distance from Google ecosystem.
Windows 10 is almost installed on over 1 Billion devices. there is no shortage of Microsoft account.
i think there are more registered Microsoft accounts than registered Google accounts.
- 100% agree
- Yes exactly, we don't want any Google sign in feature in Edge. Most of us are coming to this as we don't want to use Google chrome. So why anybody want Google login here??? It's simple.
A BIG NO FROM INSIDERS- So TRUE
- I don't understand. I have never had a problem with using Google products and services.
Elliot Kirk "Thanks for your feedback requesting the ability to sign in with a consumer Google account. From what we’re hearing, you’d like the ability to bring over data from Chrome, use your Google services and keep Microsoft Edge and Chrome in sync."
I do not use Google Chrome because Chrome ties me into Google's data-mining operation, and I will not use EdgeChromium if the browser integrates Google services in the browser.
Microsoft disentangled EdgeChromium from Google services early on, and it seems to me that it would be a serious step backward if Microsoft backed off from that design philosophy.
Few Linux builds use Chromium as the default browser (most use Firefox instead) in recent years, because most Linux users do not want to tied into Google; according to available studies, roughly 80% of Linux users prefer Firefox. I suspect that the same is true of most EdgeClassic users.
Having noted that, however, I understand why Microsoft is considering this move in order to lure Google users over to EdgeChromium. That might be a rational move.
It seems to me that how Google integration is implemented makes a big difference, probably the defining difference.
If Microsoft reintegrates Google services into the browser embedded in Windows 10, that is a roadblock for all of us who don't want to be tied into the Google infrastructure. If, on the other hand, EdgeChromium is Google-free as embedded into Windows 10, but allows those users who want to be tied into the Google infrastructure to have the option of activating that integration through a toggle or an extension, that is a different situation, and I would not object to that implementation.
- The extension would be a good idea.
but having only a toggle in the settings would require Microsoft to ship Google services with Edge browser by default for everyone.HotCakeX "... but having only a toggle in the settings would require Microsoft to ship Google services with Edge browser by default for everyone ..."
I don't think that is necessarily true. It seems to me that the toggle could be set up to act like "Turn Windows Features on and off" checkboxes in the Control Panel, downloading the Google services and installing when the toggle is turned on and the browser restarted, but not before. But if that is not technically possible to set up a toggle in that way for some reason, then Microsoft shouldn't do it that way.
tomscharbach the extension idea is awesome indeed! It would please everyone!
tomscharbach ...Not me though. I still prefer Chrome as I have to do lots of work with Google Sheets.
A reply I posted from over Here......
Under Review
Allow sign-in to the browser with a Google account
12 weeks
I'm sorry, but if I wanted a browser that the worlds largest data mining company had any access I'd be using Chrome.... And I truly hope that you are removing Anything Google from the Chromium coding.
Dennis5mile
- MissyQ
Hey, everyone! Thanks so much for this discussion, we've learned a lot from your comments. We'd like to first make it clear that we do not plan to integrate Google services into Microsoft Edge by default. We are considering including an opt-in experience for users to attach their Google account to Microsoft Edge but are not ready to make a decision on it just yet.
I'd like to take this time to reiterate what Elliot posted back in November: One option available to you today to use a single user identifier across the various services you use is to create a new Microsoft Account using a @gmail address.
As you know, you can currently import your data from Chrome by going to edge://settings/importData. You can also sign into Google websites and remember your password in Microsoft Edge to reduce the number of times you need to sign in. Accessing your Microsoft Edge data on-the-go is easily done by signing into Microsoft Edge with a Microsoft account and syncing with Microsoft Edge across other devices and mobile.
As always, we will update here once we have more information. Please continue to provide your feedback and suggestions around this feature; the team will continue to review feedback even if we have moved something to Not Planned.
MissyQ "We are considering including an opt-in experience for users to attach their Google account to Microsoft Edge but are not ready to make a decision on it just yet."
I'm glad that Microsoft has made the decision not to integrate Google services by default. I think that integrating Google services by default would have been a poor choice given Microsoft's initial efforts to "unGoogle" Edge.
I have no problem with Microsoft allowing individual users to attach their Google account to Microsoft Edge using a toggle.
As indicated in an earlier comment, I also have no problem with allowing users who want to do so to toggle on other linkages to Google services because many consumers are tied into the Google ecosystem and want to be, but Microsoft has to implement those linkages in such a way so that the toggle feature works similarly to "Turn Windows features on or off" in the Control Panel -- the necessary linkage code would be added to Edge when and if and only if the toggle was turned "On" by the user in each case, but would not otherwise be included in Edge. Microsoft should not embed linkages to Google services in the default code.
- That's great news, thanks for the wise decision!
Elliot Kirk I think Chrome's and Android's usage numbers alone show that the great majority of people are not concerned about Google. The people here who think it's the other way round (let alone 99%) should get realistic.
It's perfectly fine if you don't want to use anything from Google. But going so far as to reject the option of people signing in with their Google account is ridiculous. If you don't sign in with a Google account, nothing is sent to Google. You don't need the Google sign-in code to be located to an external module or an extension or anything like that, that's paranoid nonsense. The way I see it, if Microsoft decides to cater to that kind of extremism it will do the browser more harm than good in terms of adoption. Only a tiny minority of people (face it) would refuse to use Edge for the simple fact that somewhere inside the code there is a piece of code that allows you to use a Google account - code that is not run if you don't choose this option. However, more people may give Edge a chance if they can use their Google credentials.
Also, the demand that Microsoft should only do this if Google does it first is childish. If Microsoft wants to improve their browser experience for other people and they think adding *optional* Google sign-in does just that, then there is absolutely no reason to wait for Google to come around to that first.
Personally, sign-in with Microsoft credentials is enough for me, so I don't need Google sign-in. But if Microsoft thinks there is a demand for it, they should listen to their *broad user-base* that goes beyond only this thread and absolutely go for it.
P.S.: There is absolutely no way in hell that there are more Microsoft accounts in active use out there than Google accounts, sorry. Basically every single Android user outside of China has a Google account to access the Play Store, then there are Gmail users with iPhones and generally people who have a Google account (e.g. for Google Docs or Chrome) even without the Play Store requirement, so that adds many people *on top* of the two billions of Android users (I don't know if that figure includes Chinese devices, but probably not). Now, talking about Microsoft account holders (personal MSA, that is), who do we have? 900 million Windows 10 devices, of which we don't know how many have a Microsoft account, but definitely not close to all. Then Outlook.com users, Skype users, of which there are fewer than Gmail and the Play Store. Sorry, you need to get real here.
While I get everyone's concern with Google and their data, simply removing the option altogether is really not a solution. Just because of the few that do not want to use Google, that should not mean that everyone else should be barred from it.
I have installed Edge Chromium on my laptop, which I use at work, and taken it for a test drive all day.
At work all our accounts a GSuite accounts, that means I have to use Google, and that also means I do not have an option of just using something else and not syncing the account. While Edge was fine for general browsing, I can't make the switch unless it allows me to have freedom with what I want to use or sync.
Similarly at home I have multiple google devices and services, which means I would, again, be barred from them. Now this might sound all fine, but it really isn't because the amount of time and effort it would take me to transfer my entire ecosystem from Google to Microsoft is both impractical and unwanted. For this to be a browser that allows a full switch it needs to play nice with the rest, because who wants to use a browser for this and a browser for that? It just becomes a hassle and people jump ship back to Google Chrome.
So while I understand that some people might not want to use Google, I strongly disagree it should be totally removed. Keyword is Option.- Spoiler
_JxR_ wrote:While I get everyone's concern with Google and their data, simply removing the option altogether is really not a solution. Just because of the few that do not want to use Google, that should not mean that everyone else should be barred from it.
I have installed Edge Chromium on my laptop, which I use at work, and taken it for a test drive all day.
At work all our accounts a GSuite accounts, that means I have to use Google, and that also means I do not have an option of just using something else and not syncing the account. While Edge was fine for general browsing, I can't make the switch unless it allows me to have freedom with what I want to use or sync.
Similarly at home I have multiple google devices and services, which means I would, again, be barred from them. Now this might sound all fine, but it really isn't because the amount of time and effort it would take me to transfer my entire ecosystem from Google to Microsoft is both impractical and unwanted. For this to be a browser that allows a full switch it needs to play nice with the rest, because who wants to use a browser for this and a browser for that? It just becomes a hassle and people jump ship back to Google Chrome.
So while I understand that some people might not want to use Google, I strongly disagree it should be totally removed. Keyword is Option.Few??
99% don't want Google integration.
they already have too much access to people's data.
there is no need to transfer entire ecosystem. Edge doesn't even support the entire ecosystem!
Edge sync is simple, favorites, passwords, address and that's it.
the rest of the sync options are dynamically generated content and no need to be imported.
also Microsoft account is widely used on Windows devices. (desktops, laptops, tablets, phones) work/home/school/organization you name it.
one doesn't need to create a new Email address in order to have a Microsoft account.
Google should First add support for Microsoft account sign in, and then, only then, Microsoft should add Google sign in to their browsers.
I'm not saying it has to be mandatory integration, I'm saying that if it lacks the option, it's unusable for a lot of people. Your 99% is biased and, honestly, unreal. Google is ahead of Microsoft in terms of usage so whether you like it or not, you can't simply say "no google in this browser people don't want it" because it is NEEDED.
If there is no option to use it, you're cutting out on the amount of people that can use your browser. For Google this is fine, they have the bulk of the users anyway, they don't have to care, it's not in their interest to play nice. So yes FEW people. If Microsoft wants to put up REAL competition, they have to take that ease of use from Chrome and integrations, or it is simply IMPOSSIBLE from a business standpoint. They have to steal users away and they can't do it by offering less options.
Saying that Edge doesn't support the ecosystem just means Edge can't replace Chrome, which, you know, it's what they were trying to do, creating a browser you can use on it's own.
And yes, Microsoft accounts are generally used in Windows devices, but how many are linked to Google accounts? Because they let you create your account with a Google Email and sync all your Google stuff to your Microsoft account. Organizations still use Google more, look at statistics before you make guesses.If they instead of targeting your general user go for the tin-foil wearing minorities they will never get the numbers that other browsers have. Edge barely has more usage than IE, coming in at 2% to 5% of the share, although some sites report that IE still has more users than Edge.
It is Microsoft that needs to bend and bring change, not the biggest player in the market. How do you ever suppose that would work? If they follow the decision of not doing it this is as good as finished.
Wake up, either they have the option or this will be just like the current Edge, a tool to install Chrome.
Oh, and if you're not sure: I'm currently consulting for a US based health company that works with Microsoft very heavily and they still use the Chrome browser. Think what you will of that.
- I totally agree. I have an Android device and sync between EdgeChromium (in my PC) and Chrome (on my smartphone) will be very very useful!
If someone doesn't want to log-in with a Google account can don't do it, it is not mandatory!- You can just install Edge for Android, or use Chrome at everywhere. You can also tell Google to add "Sync with Microsoft account or you will uninstall it"
If you use so many google services because you only want to use a Microsoft service, install Chrome and do not get into trouble, the people who use this service is because we simply do not like using google. If both your personal life and work using google then use you too. And if you both want to use then I leave the page for you to create a Microsoft account. And the key word here is also an option, the option to create a Microsoft account.
AnphirAddoN wrote:If you use so many google services because you only want to use a Microsoft service, install Chrome and do not get into trouble, the people who use this service is because we simply do not like using google. If both your personal life and work using google then use you too. And if you both want to use then I leave the page for you to create a Microsoft account. And the key word here is also an option, the option to create a Microsoft account.
Exactly!
Here's the thing - if you want google browser experience, just use Chrome.
Not that difficult.
I am signed into my Google account on Edgeium and can still access everything I need to, but I'm signed into Edge with my Microsoft account. It's the best of both worlds really. I got like 97% of my data pulled over to Edgium from the Chrome data import, so I don't feel at all like I wish I could sign into my Google account in the browser. I'm using my Google services just fine being signed into the various web pages. 😕- There is no reason to use Chrome anymore.
This sounds like such a waste of resources. If people want a google browser/ a browser that uses google sign in, they can easily open a chrome browser. This isn't going to get anyone to switch, and I'd rather see devs and community focus on making a great browser that stands on its own with as few google services as possible. Elliot Kirk
Elliot Kirk Adding the ability to sign in with Google account, would having all the efforts of creating a great browsing experience be eliminated. And all the hard work of making a the new microsoft Edge a pure Microsoft browsing experience. If a user wants to use a browser with their G account Chrome is available, but brining this idea of let's integrate Google services into the new Edge will have potential problems. Google is first an advertising company and does not care about how a user's data is used. What is the point of using the new Edge if at the end Microsoft makes a 180 degree turn and reintegrates Google services.
There are better features and better use of the engineering team's time than integrating Google back into the browser. Features like redesigning the UI including the settings menu, the favourites menu and features that are being asked for and will benefit the experience. The simple fact is if a user wants Google in their browser Chrome is available, even if Chrome integrates or allows sign in with MS account which is highly unlikely; this deters the use of Edge, including this idea will push people to Chrome and will not give a good incentive to use Edge.
Microsoft=Edge
Google=Chrome
Microsoft DOES NOT Equal to Google.
- Well said.
Elliot Kirk I think Chrome's and Android's usage numbers alone show that the great majority of people are not concerned about Google. The people here who think it's the other way round (let alone 99%) should get realistic.
It's perfectly fine if you don't want to use anything from Google. But going so far as to reject the option of people signing in with their Google account is ridiculous. If you don't sign in with a Google account, nothing is sent to Google. You don't need the Google sign-in code to be located to an external module or an extension or anything like that, that's paranoid nonsense. The way I see it, if Microsoft decides to cater to that kind of extremism it will do the browser more harm than good in terms of adoption. Only a tiny minority of people (face it) would refuse to use Edge for the simple fact that somewhere inside the code there is a piece of code that allows you to use a Google account - code that is not run if you don't choose this option. However, more people may give Edge a chance if they can use their Google credentials.
Also, the demand that Microsoft should only do this if Google does it first is childish. If Microsoft wants to improve their browser experience for other people and they think adding *optional* Google sign-in does just that, then there is absolutely no reason to wait for Google to come around to that first.
Personally, sign-in with Microsoft credentials is enough for me, so I don't need Google sign-in. But if Microsoft thinks there is a demand for it, they should listen to their *broad user-base* that goes beyond only this thread and absolutely go for it.
P.S.: There is absolutely no way that there are more Microsoft accounts in active use out there than Google accounts, sorry. Basically every single Android user outside of China has a Google account to access the Play Store, then there are Gmail users with iPhones and generally people who have a Google account (e.g. for Google Docs or Chrome) even without the Play Store requirement, so that adds many people *on top* of the two billions of Android users (I don't know if that figure includes Chinese devices, but probably not). Now, talking about Microsoft account holders (personal MSA, that is), who do we have? 900 million Windows 10 devices, of which we don't know how many have a Microsoft account, but definitely not close to all. Then Outlook.com users, Skype users, of which there are fewer than Gmail and the Play Store. Sorry, you need to get real here.
