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Some bugs and suggestions with the latest versions (Canary)
With regards to the black bar on focusable elements this change is by design and was tested with end users. From an aesthetics perspective the change was roughly a 50/50 split for/against but it was more preferred by users that have a need for higher contrast colors. Because of our focus on accessibility we decided that it broke the tie. We go over this change in our https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2019/10/15/form-controls-microsoft-edge-chromium/ about the updated form controls. This change has landed in Chromium itself and will be visible in Chrome started in https://blog.chromium.org/2020/03/updates-to-form-controls-and-focus.html.
And Firefox is also https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1626512 aligning with our adjustment too due to the accessibility benefits.
Thanks as always for the feedback and please keep it coming.
Chrome to perfect the design "copied" on Edge
Edge Canary 84 :
Chrome Canary 84 :
On Chrome, the blue outline is much better, the design is smoother
Maybe i'll use chrome canary until edge is the same design
tistou Thanks for the response, and I'll continue to track feedback.
To your specific example however - this is due to them over-riding within their UI the focus styles created by the platform as can be seen in their stylesheet here:
This does not impact web rendered content as can be seen here on Fidelity.com
Chrome Canary 84 (Left) / Edge Canary 84 (Right)
If we continue to get feedback from users that they do not like the overall aesthetics we'll go back to doing some user research. Out of curiosity, if I offered you a toggle to adjust that, would you use that? I prefer - as noted in the blog and above, to have the default err on the side of being accessible. But I also understand people, even in the study, have a difference of opinion on aesthetics. We spent a lot of time across companies going over this and which direction was the best one. Let me know about the setting (btw, I'm merely brainstorming at the moment and that is only one possible solution - happy to hear others if you got 'em). Thanks for the continued feedback.
Ok, thank so much for the initiative
I fully understand that you could not respond favorably to all user requeststistou I've opened the following bug to track feedback on this: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1076478
Please star that issue as that helps us keep track (at a Chromium level) the demand for investigating the issue. I'll note that the toggle is only one such solution and it may not be the way we try and solve this, if we try and solve it. I want to try and manage your expectations though, as we have to prioritize our time on the highest priority items based on feedback. And even getting a seemingly simple toggle in requires user testing, design reviews, developer time and considerations of other approaches.At any rate, I want to ensure that you know that we do value the feedback (not just Edge but the entire Chromium v-team on controls) and will take it into account during prioritization.
Thanks for your reply and thanks for the details,
Indeed I prefer the design of Chrome for these interfaces (much less aggressive than the black of Edge)
gregwhitworth wrote:Out of curiosity, if I offered you a toggle to adjust that, would you use that?
Yes of course, I would be delighted to test
I have indicated to users of French forums to give feedback on this design
Thanks