Forum Discussion
Edge favorites menu
- This is great feedback. Are you looking for a way to access your favorites and history withough having to open a new tab?
The UI will be all Microsoft and most user's will see minimal differences in the end (I suspect). The data tells Edge developers what UI features were previously used and which were eye-candy.
"That is one of the biggest flaws that the "original" Edge got wrong? " I didn't say that, or are you saying that? The way favorites/bookmars were handled was one of the great things that HTML Edge got right. It was efficient and elegant and miles ahead of what Chrome and Firefox still have today.
"No easy, good way to manage favorites was built-in. And the 3rd-party favorites manager's were horrible at best." I beg to differ, HTML Edge's favorites/bookmarks built in system was excellent, easily the best among all browsers.
"Ctrl+Shift+O opens the Favorites manager. EZ." That's an awful way to navigate favorites/bookmarks IMO. It's not a terrible way to actually manage them, although I would opine that just dragging and dropping through HTML Edge browser was much simpler. But to have to press Ctrl Shft O and open a new page EVERY single time I wanted to navigate to a favorite is just awfully involved.
"The old Edge was adopted by too few people and was unsuccessful. Google kept messing with how web-page rendering functioned and made Edge less than optimal, so the move to Open-Source chromium to eliminate that problem." Completely agree, but that has very little, if anything, to do with what we are talking about. In just a week or so of using Chromium Edge I think it's great. Just to expound on HTML Edge's low numbers I really doubt that a complete Chrome clone will sway many users to switch to Edge, especially if Google uses MS's code for smooth scrolling/zooming. If I'm going to be subjected to an inefficient way to handle my favorites I might as well stay with Chrome.
Sorry, I think we're talking about different things? Favorites display vs. Favorites management?
Edge Favorites display was good IMO, not great.
New Edge still easy to add favorites, access Favorites Bar and "Other"Favorites.
Edge Favorites management was horrible and not intuitive. Drag and drop worked but wasn't responsive, sluggish and inaccurate, IMO. That's why there were attempts to develop third-party apps to manage Edge Favorites. Power user's could use admin tools, but that's not a typical user.
The "Hub" is what every one seems to miss but the New style ellipse, or hamburger menu icon gives you most of what was on the Edge Hub. anyway? OK change the link icon to the "Hub" icon but keep chromium menu, it is cleaner design and keeps everything in one place. I never used Reading List or Books? Add 'em if you want.
Edge was adopted by a very, very small share of Windows users. Ranged between 8-12% generally. Edge dev and Edge canary are "developmental" and datametrics will guide UI development. I think the team will add Reading Pane, Fluent Design (likely) and many other features in the weeks ahead.
I liked Edge, I used Edge (along with other browsers to stay fluent with their UI, etc). Edge wasn't adopted. Google messed with Edge rendering. Edge adoption hit a plateau, or was droppimg. Using chromium rendering puts the New Edge browser in the mainstream and, bonus, open-sourced. Less likely to be messed with by the "Not Evil" Empire. Better extension base, too.
Yes you're right, my mistake. Favorites display from HTML Edge is what I'm advocating. Fully agree that HTML Edge Favorites management was abyssmal. Favorites management in chromium Edge seems ok and an improvement. Still needs the ability to select multiple favorites when moving or deleting, especially because the import system stupidly shoves all your imported favorites into its own folder instead of respecting the layout you had on the source browser. Also needs to respect dark mode.
This would have been ok in HTML Edge if MS didn't needlessly hide the location of favorites. There was a decent favorites management app that I used that wasn't half bad, but I forget the name of it at the moment.
- Thanks.
Windows File Explorer is the model [when FE is repaired to function as File Explorer should] with full respect for tree and folder layout, and the ability to select and copy, move, paste and/or drag and drop just like File Explorer.
I think we agree much more than we disagree?
I have several hundred bookmarks. I don't use Edge and instead use FireFox only because it fits those bookmarks tightly on the left side (reduced mouse movement and similar to Adobe Acrobat Table of Contents setup). Plus it's easy to manage those bookmarks via dragging.
I'd sure like to use Edge but without that pinned bookmark pane...it's not in the cards.
- I agree. People who speak mainly English read left to right. The bookmarks panel on the left keeps the visual movement intact of moving left to right. People who have studied this say starting the visual activity in the same direction is mentally more efficient. This is why numbers and alpha are on the left. Paragraphs begin on the left. And thus, moving from a bookmark to the corresponding text should remain left to right. Placing the bookmark panel on the right is counter to English speaking people. For those in certain Asian and Arab countries who use right to left writing, then they should have the option to read their browser according to their language.
