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Edge favorites menu
- Apr 08, 2019This is great feedback. Are you looking for a way to access your favorites and history withough having to open a new tab?
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Edge is based on chromium so ellipse [ . . . ] (top right of address bar) is where all access to all functions are based. Since new Edge (dev) is based on chromium, that is where ALL "setings," "history," "favorites, "extensions," "downloads," etc will be located in the "new" Edge.
It uses the ellipse to be visually compatible with chromium/Chrome instead of the dual "dueling icons." Less busy, one access point, simpler, easier.
That would be a huge shame if MS left out the way the old Edge handled bookmarks, IMO that's one of the absolute top reasons I used it over other browsers. To have to dig into menus just to get to a bookmark, especially if I'm doing a lot of browsing is inefficient, inelegant and very frustrating at best. I've always hated how Chrome handles bookmarks this way. Instead of being simpler, as you put it, it just makes more work.
I also hope MS isn't trying to be visually compatible with Chromium/Chrome, I would hope they take their browser in the direction they want to instead of just being a clone, otherwise they are going to have a hard time convincing existing users to switch to their browser. Differentiation is where it's at, and that's a big reason why most of us chose the old Edge as our browser of choice.
- JamesSantaBarbaraApr 17, 2019Brass ContributorThe old Edge was adopted by too few people and was unsuccessful. Google kept messing with how web-page rendering functioned and made Edge less than optimal, so the move to Open-Source chromium to eliminate that problem.
The UI will be all Microsoft and most user's will see minimal differences in the end (I suspect). The data tells Edge developers what UI features were previously used and which were eye-candy.- SD777Apr 17, 2019Iron Contributor
"That is one of the biggest flaws that the "original" Edge got wrong? " I didn't say that, or are you saying that? The way favorites/bookmars were handled was one of the great things that HTML Edge got right. It was efficient and elegant and miles ahead of what Chrome and Firefox still have today.
"No easy, good way to manage favorites was built-in. And the 3rd-party favorites manager's were horrible at best." I beg to differ, HTML Edge's favorites/bookmarks built in system was excellent, easily the best among all browsers.
"Ctrl+Shift+O opens the Favorites manager. EZ." That's an awful way to navigate favorites/bookmarks IMO. It's not a terrible way to actually manage them, although I would opine that just dragging and dropping through HTML Edge browser was much simpler. But to have to press Ctrl Shft O and open a new page EVERY single time I wanted to navigate to a favorite is just awfully involved.
"The old Edge was adopted by too few people and was unsuccessful. Google kept messing with how web-page rendering functioned and made Edge less than optimal, so the move to Open-Source chromium to eliminate that problem." Completely agree, but that has very little, if anything, to do with what we are talking about. In just a week or so of using Chromium Edge I think it's great. Just to expound on HTML Edge's low numbers I really doubt that a complete Chrome clone will sway many users to switch to Edge, especially if Google uses MS's code for smooth scrolling/zooming. If I'm going to be subjected to an inefficient way to handle my favorites I might as well stay with Chrome.
- JamesSantaBarbaraApr 19, 2019Brass Contributor
Sorry, I think we're talking about different things? Favorites display vs. Favorites management?
Edge Favorites display was good IMO, not great.
New Edge still easy to add favorites, access Favorites Bar and "Other"Favorites.
Edge Favorites management was horrible and not intuitive. Drag and drop worked but wasn't responsive, sluggish and inaccurate, IMO. That's why there were attempts to develop third-party apps to manage Edge Favorites. Power user's could use admin tools, but that's not a typical user.
The "Hub" is what every one seems to miss but the New style ellipse, or hamburger menu icon gives you most of what was on the Edge Hub. anyway? OK change the link icon to the "Hub" icon but keep chromium menu, it is cleaner design and keeps everything in one place. I never used Reading List or Books? Add 'em if you want.
Edge was adopted by a very, very small share of Windows users. Ranged between 8-12% generally. Edge dev and Edge canary are "developmental" and datametrics will guide UI development. I think the team will add Reading Pane, Fluent Design (likely) and many other features in the weeks ahead.
I liked Edge, I used Edge (along with other browsers to stay fluent with their UI, etc). Edge wasn't adopted. Google messed with Edge rendering. Edge adoption hit a plateau, or was droppimg. Using chromium rendering puts the New Edge browser in the mainstream and, bonus, open-sourced. Less likely to be messed with by the "Not Evil" Empire. Better extension base, too.
- JamesSantaBarbaraApr 17, 2019Brass ContributorThat is one of the biggest flaws that the "original" Edge got wrong? No easy, good way to manage favorites was built-in. And the 3rd-party favorites manager's were horrible at best.
Ctrl+Shift+O opens the Favorites manager. EZ. Just hope the team improves the experience so that it is as good as chromium/Chrome. It needs to be responsive and include drag and drop to be useful and navigate the folder tree.