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Please -Bring over the classic Edge Favorits experience with pin-able side menu!
doesn't Google chrome use the same style for bookmarks and still has lots of users? or is there any issues and differences between how Edge insider and Google chrome handle their bookmarks menu?
That there are a lot of Chrome users is not necessarily suggestive that the Chrome favorites experience is good, it might just mean that they accept it as a “lesser” problem for the “greater” overall benefit. – I won’t try to speak for them though, it’s just that for me the current Chrome experience is like stepping back a decade in user friendliness,
On the personal side of it is that I have seen/used and lived with the (imo) far superior classic edge fav experience, and as such also suffer from the clunky, user unfriendly and generally bad fav experience and thus would like to get the superior one rolled into Chromium.
As to the diff between Chrome and Chromium Edge users – it could be as simple that we on the Chromium Edge side of things actually know the subjectively better way whilst Chrome users might not have that previous experience?
FredrikStahlbrandt
Good thoughts, well said & very valid, Fred. They don't know what they're missing. IF we can roll other Edge HTML things into OUR Chromium-based browser, such as Add notes & Share or a better tech searching in the address bar and more... surely, we can roll into OURS the better approach to Favs.
Anyway, that's my thought on the matter.
Cheers,
Drew
Drew1903 wrote:Good thoughts, well said & very valid, Fred. They don't know what they're missing. IF we can roll other Edge HTML things into OUR Chromium-based browser, such as Add notes & Share or a better tech searching in the address bar and more... surely, we can roll into OURS the better approach to Favs.
Share is already available, add notes is being worked on but what is tech searching?
HotCakeX "doesn't Google chrome use the same style for bookmarks and still has lots of users?"
Lots of people eat way too much fast food, too. That doesn't mean that the food is good. It just means that a lot of people eat it.
FredrikStahlbrandt "That there are a lot of Chrome users is not necessarily suggestive that the Chrome favorites experience is good, it might just mean that they accept it as a “lesser” problem for the “greater” overall benefit."
I agree. The fact that a lot of people have learned to tolerate a poor design is not a reason to replicate it.
FredrikStahlbrandt "I won’t try to speak for them though, it’s just that for me the current Chrome experience is like stepping back a decade in user friendliness."
I agree with this, too. Flyout menu design was "the thing" 1995-2005 and Chromium picked it up. But that doesn't mean that it was a good UI solution (even at the time) and it certainly doesn't mean that it should be continued. EdgeChromium is, as far as I know, the only element of Windows using the flyout UI at this point. The inconsistency in design motif is glaring.
tomscharbach
Tom, Fred,
Since it does seem 99.9999 agree on this, we need to hope & praying the Team hears & acts on it. Especially, when included are comments from Enterprise customers which, is such major revenue for MS.
BTW, couple of excellent lines in here saying, "Just because it's bad doesn't mean we want to use it plus, WE have a better way"
Cheers,
Drew- So you want to force people to use a different UI just because you think it's good for them?
yes people use fast foot a lot but it doesn't matter whether it's good for them or not, who are we to decide?
extensions are made to give people choices.HotCakeX "So you want to force people to use a different UI just because you think it's good for them? yes people use fast foot a lot but it doesn't matter whether it's good for them or not, who are we to decide? extensions are made to give people choices."
The question we are discussing is which Favorites UI (that is, flyout or nested list) should be the default, not whether extensions allow users to modify the default.
You mentioned in a previous comment that "Simplicity" is a Chrome attribute that you think Microsoft should follow. Let me ask you, then, looking at Fredrik Ståhlbrandt's screenshots: "Which is the simpler to comprehend and use, a flyout UI or a nested list UI?"
The nested list UI is used throughout Windows 10. If the flyout UI is superior for some reason -- and I have yet to see anyone defend it on technical or usability grounds in this Forum -- then perhaps we are barking up the wrong tree. Instead of asking Microsoft to change the default UI in EdgeChromium from flyout to nested, perhaps we should be asking Microsoft to change the default UI everywhere else from nested list UI to flyout UI.
- I like one thing about Google Chrome and I think Microsoft should follow that too: Simplicity.
that's Google chrome's motto.
flyout menu, sliding menu, things like that are not simple. in Google chrome there is an arrow, you click/touch it and all the bookmarks are there, no more messing around. easy and fast access to the bookmarks.
there are cluttered browsers like Opera (lots of variants), Firefox etc, fully of unnecessary features. none of them have any significant user base.
for Chromium based browsers, extensions are available, so everyone can customize their browsers the way they want without forcing their opinions on others to accept it. that's very important.
