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Please -Bring over the classic Edge Favorits experience with pin-able side menu!
Thanks for posting about the issue, and for demonstrating the issue so clearly through your screenshots.
The Favorites UI has been a constant source of comment/complaint from the beginning, by me and many, many others.
Although I initially thought that Microsoft would resolve the problem (based on Elliot's response above), it does not seem that Microsoft intends to change the flyouts to a hierarchical list, because the issue no longer appears on the "Feedback" list.
The Favorites UI is abominable, in a word. On a 11-13" laptop the UI is unusable, as flyouts quickly start to overlay each other and it becomes just about impossible to use the UI. As far as I am concerned, the UI also creates accessibility issues, because anyone trying to use the UI who has even slightly impaired small-muscle control and/or any level of hand tremor cannot use the menu at all.
I don't understand why Microsoft doesn't change this. For a significant number of people, the current Favorites UI is going to be a roadblock.
doesn't Google chrome use the same style for bookmarks and still has lots of users? or is there any issues and differences between how Edge insider and Google chrome handle their bookmarks menu?
- A couple of things on this I guess;
That there are a lot of Chrome users is not necessarily suggestive that the Chrome favorites experience is good, it might just mean that they accept it as a “lesser” problem for the “greater” overall benefit. – I won’t try to speak for them though, it’s just that for me the current Chrome experience is like stepping back a decade in user friendliness,
On the personal side of it is that I have seen/used and lived with the (imo) far superior classic edge fav experience, and as such also suffer from the clunky, user unfriendly and generally bad fav experience and thus would like to get the superior one rolled into Chromium.
As to the diff between Chrome and Chromium Edge users – it could be as simple that we on the Chromium Edge side of things actually know the subjectively better way whilst Chrome users might not have that previous experience?FredrikStahlbrandt
Good thoughts, well said & very valid, Fred. They don't know what they're missing. IF we can roll other Edge HTML things into OUR Chromium-based browser, such as Add notes & Share or a better tech searching in the address bar and more... surely, we can roll into OURS the better approach to Favs.
Anyway, that's my thought on the matter.
Cheers,
Drew
Drew1903 wrote:Good thoughts, well said & very valid, Fred. They don't know what they're missing. IF we can roll other Edge HTML things into OUR Chromium-based browser, such as Add notes & Share or a better tech searching in the address bar and more... surely, we can roll into OURS the better approach to Favs.
Share is already available, add notes is being worked on but what is tech searching?
HotCakeX "doesn't Google chrome use the same style for bookmarks and still has lots of users?"
Lots of people eat way too much fast food, too. That doesn't mean that the food is good. It just means that a lot of people eat it.
FredrikStahlbrandt "That there are a lot of Chrome users is not necessarily suggestive that the Chrome favorites experience is good, it might just mean that they accept it as a “lesser” problem for the “greater” overall benefit."
I agree. The fact that a lot of people have learned to tolerate a poor design is not a reason to replicate it.
FredrikStahlbrandt "I won’t try to speak for them though, it’s just that for me the current Chrome experience is like stepping back a decade in user friendliness."
I agree with this, too. Flyout menu design was "the thing" 1995-2005 and Chromium picked it up. But that doesn't mean that it was a good UI solution (even at the time) and it certainly doesn't mean that it should be continued. EdgeChromium is, as far as I know, the only element of Windows using the flyout UI at this point. The inconsistency in design motif is glaring.
tomscharbach
Tom, Fred,
Since it does seem 99.9999 agree on this, we need to hope & praying the Team hears & acts on it. Especially, when included are comments from Enterprise customers which, is such major revenue for MS.
BTW, couple of excellent lines in here saying, "Just because it's bad doesn't mean we want to use it plus, WE have a better way"
Cheers,
Drew
- I like one thing about Google Chrome and I think Microsoft should follow that too: Simplicity.
that's Google chrome's motto.
flyout menu, sliding menu, things like that are not simple. in Google chrome there is an arrow, you click/touch it and all the bookmarks are there, no more messing around. easy and fast access to the bookmarks.
there are cluttered browsers like Opera (lots of variants), Firefox etc, fully of unnecessary features. none of them have any significant user base.
for Chromium based browsers, extensions are available, so everyone can customize their browsers the way they want without forcing their opinions on others to accept it. that's very important.
