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New Feature in Edge Canary: new dark design for Tab strip
And for the Light theme
New:
Old:
Notice how Windows accent colors can affect the Tab title texts adversely. now with this new change, user can be free to set any color they want as Windows 10 accent color (like I did in the screenshot above with Pink color) and the text will always stay readable.
this was a change that requested by others in the community. Thanks for listening
This new version doesn't only change the background tabs to near black. It's also made the dropdown and context menus a notably lighter grey.
I have the accent colour in Windows set to 'Overcast'. Again, how Edge was with that WAS perfect for me. This new version is horrible - I dislike it exactly the same way I disliked the Mozilla Dark theme in Firefox. If this new version stays with no option for the old, what was a plus for Edge in my ongoing decision as to whether to stay with Firefox (desktop and mobile) or change to Edge (desktop and mobile) has now become a minus, given the fact that yesterday I finished re-creating the now-former Edge Dark theme (as it was with the overcast accent) on Firefox.
I did go to that site where you can create themes for Google Chrome and have it then generate the theme install file, and tried to recreate the old version, specifying my system 'overcast' accent as the colour for the tab bar and background tab. Which worked adding the generated Chrome theme to Edge. Unfortunately, everything NOT specified in the Chrome theme reverts to default, so the URLbar, menus etc etc, lose the dark theme effect and they are elements not able to be specified in the theme generator. Which was also the case with Firefox using the colors.Firefox theme generator, which is why in Firefox I've been using userChrome.css to effectively modify just the parts I want on top of the dark theme for every element I haven't specified a change for.
And just because some people have asked for this doesn't mean everyone wants it.
I started looking at whether to carry on with Firefox (desktop and mobile) or move to Edge (desktop and mobile - needs to be the same on both platforms for syncing) due to the upcoming major change in the Firefox mobile browser. An added element is that I have very recently become unexpectedly very sensitive to the glare from light coloured backgrounds (in all programs, not just my web browser), and current (old) and 'old' Firefox mobile is very clunky with Dark Reader. So I'm weighing the two 'browser ecosystems', Firefox and Edge, carefully and in detail, and with certain MUST HAVEs.
I'm also disabled, in constant pain and very foggy headed as a side-effect from constant prescription medications. Trying to learn new things is difficult. Focusing to think even vaguely coherently, typing, experimenting - it's all very slow for me and costs a great deal of rapidly mounting extra pain (typing this, the pain shoots up to intolerable after about a short sentence worth and I have to break before typing any more - the whole post will take many hours). Most of the time I'm just lying in a pain-filled fog, incapable of doing anything much, and my ability to do anything is both limited and involves a lot of extra pain. I'm saying this to make clear that the fact that I've actually spent two days learning to and eventually succeeding at changing Firefox's dark mode to look like Edge's dark mode did (with W10 overcast accent), with all the extra pain from the extended focusing, searching, reading, typing and trying to find out what mistake I'd made, means that this is not just some minor matter of taste preference to me. It is very, very IMPORTANT to me. I can't carry on using Firefox's default theme, or its dark theme as it is unmodified, but require elements from its dark theme that aren't able to be specified in add-on themes. Similarly I can't use Edge with its default theme, and I can't use it now with this new dark theme. If I can't carry on with the dark theme as it was in Edge, then the comparison ends and Firefox themed as Edge was with the Overcast accent wins. Simple as that.
Again, I like choice. I don't expect everyone (or anyone) to have the same tastes or needs as me. I don't want people to be forced to have everything 'my way'. If some, even many other people want this new dark theme, that's fine with me AS LONG AS IT IS A CHOICE AN I DON'T GET STOPPED FROM THE OPTION TO CHOOSE WHAT I WANT AND NEED.
I'm starting to build up a bad history of this with Microsoft. Early last year I started using Microsoft Launcher, which I really liked although it needed some performance improvements. Then, out of nowhere, they changed two things in the UI which had been things I particularly liked; and changed them to things I hated. In both cases the changes could easily have been new options, but no - just 'take this and screw you'. So I went off and bought Nova Launcher, where they ADD options rather than just changing things away from what at least some of their users like.
- DeletedMar 19, 2020
Thank you all for the thoughtful responses. I brought your feedback straight to our product team, and they wanted you to know this:
"Thanks for bringing this to our attention! It looks like this might be related to a new bug, so the team will be looking into it right away. Please let us know if you see anything similar, and we appreciate you sharing this."Fawkes (they/them)
Project & Community Manager - Microsoft Edge- tistouMar 19, 2020Bronze Contributor
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Thanks for this information
If we could have the old design again (for the clear theme)
- HotCakeXMar 19, 2020MVP
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Deleted wrote:Thank you all for the thoughtful responses. I brought your feedback straight to our product team, and they wanted you to know this:
"Thanks for bringing this to our attention! It looks like this might be related to a new bug, so the team will be looking into it right away. Please let us know if you see anything similar, and we appreciate you sharing this."Fawkes (they/them)
Project & Community Manager - Microsoft EdgeThanks, oh it is considered as a bug by the team? hmm I really liked it
- DeletedMar 19, 2020
HotCakeX I'll let the team know! Haha, many good features start as "bugs," so we'll see how things shake out. 🙂
Fawkes (they/them)
Project & Community Manager - Microsoft Edge
- HotCakeXMar 17, 2020MVPSpoiler
DavidGB wrote:This new version doesn't only change the background tabs to near black. It's also made the dropdown and context menus a notably lighter grey.
I have the accent colour in Windows set to 'Overcast'. Again, how Edge was with that WAS perfect for me. This new version is horrible - I dislike it exactly the same way I disliked the Mozilla Dark theme in Firefox. If this new version stays with no option for the old, what was a plus for Edge in my ongoing decision as to whether to stay with Firefox (desktop and mobile) or change to Edge (desktop and mobile) has now become a minus, given the fact that yesterday I finished re-creating the now-former Edge Dark theme (as it was with the overcast accent) on Firefox.
I did go to that site where you can create themes for Google Chrome and have it then generate the theme install file, and tried to recreate the old version, specifying my system 'overcast' accent as the colour for the tab bar and background tab. Which worked adding the generated Chrome theme to Edge. Unfortunately, everything NOT specified in the Chrome theme reverts to default, so the URLbar, menus etc etc, lose the dark theme effect and they are elements not able to be specified in the theme generator. Which was also the case with Firefox using the colors.Firefox theme generator, which is why in Firefox I've been using userChrome.css to effectively modify just the parts I want on top of the dark theme for every element I haven't specified a change for.
And just because some people have asked for this doesn't mean everyone wants it.
I started looking at whether to carry on with Firefox (desktop and mobile) or move to Edge (desktop and mobile - needs to be the same on both platforms for syncing) due to the upcoming major change in the Firefox mobile browser. An added element is that I have very recently become unexpectedly very sensitive to the glare from light coloured backgrounds (in all programs, not just my web browser), and current (old) and 'old' Firefox mobile is very clunky with Dark Reader. So I'm weighing the two 'browser ecosystems', Firefox and Edge, carefully and in detail, and with certain MUST HAVEs.
I'm also disabled, in constant pain and very foggy headed as a side-effect from constant prescription medications. Trying to learn new things is difficult. Focusing to think even vaguely coherently, typing, experimenting - it's all very slow for me and costs a great deal of rapidly mounting extra pain (typing this, the pain shoots up to intolerable after about a short sentence worth and I have to break before typing any more - the whole post will take many hours). Most of the time I'm just lying in a pain-filled fog, incapable of doing anything much, and my ability to do anything is both limited and involves a lot of extra pain. I'm saying this to make clear that the fact that I've actually spent two days learning to and eventually succeeding at changing Firefox's dark mode to look like Edge's dark mode did (with W10 overcast accent), with all the extra pain from the extended focusing, searching, reading, typing and trying to find out what mistake I'd made, means that this is not just some minor matter of taste preference to me. It is very, very IMPORTANT to me. I can't carry on using Firefox's default theme, or its dark theme as it is unmodified, but require elements from its dark theme that aren't able to be specified in add-on themes. Similarly I can't use Edge with its default theme, and I can't use it now with this new dark theme. If I can't carry on with the dark theme as it was in Edge, then the comparison ends and Firefox themed as Edge was with the Overcast accent wins. Simple as that.
Again, I like choice. I don't expect everyone (or anyone) to have the same tastes or needs as me. I don't want people to be forced to have everything 'my way'. If some, even many other people want this new dark theme, that's fine with me AS LONG AS IT IS A CHOICE AN I DON'T GET STOPPED FROM THE OPTION TO CHOOSE WHAT I WANT AND NEED.
I'm starting to build up a bad history of this with Microsoft. Early last year I started using Microsoft Launcher, which I really liked although it needed some performance improvements. Then, out of nowhere, they changed two things in the UI which had been things I particularly liked; and changed them to things I hated. In both cases the changes could easily have been new options, but no - just 'take this and screw you'. So I went off and bought Nova Launcher, where they ADD options rather than just changing things away from what at least some of their users like.
drop down where?
the context menu is the same as before, I don't notice any changes at all.
I've been waiting for this change for a long time, so were many other people in the community.
you'll get used to it too, the old design wasn't going to be permanently like that, things are constantly changing because the browser is new and this change was logical, it doesn't break anything or hurt anything, it's just the way it was supposed to be from the beginning.
You said that yourself, that site creates theme for chrome, Not Edge, so you shouldn't expect it to generate theme for every chromium-based browser and they work perfectly.
Microsoft should add a Themes section to their own Addons store and offer users tools to create custom themes and share it with others.
this tool will be compatible with Edge and its unique superior design.
this change isn't that big anyway, again it's just how it was supposed to be from the beginning. it doesn't need anything to learn, it's not anything new, it doesn't cause any problem nor hurt anyone or anything.