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tistou
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Aug 24, 2019

Microsoft Edge process

Hello   Why, at times, the Edge processes are all grouped together (only one separated) ?     And at times, they are "scattered"?   Not possible to have them all the time "groupe...
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HotCakeX
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Sep 07, 2019
Google Chrome is the fastest because of its V8 and Blink engines, they sacrifice RAM to give the user the best and fastest page loads and responses. Google and Microsoft both want to keep the same level of responsiveness but at the same time lower the RAM usage.

i personally have 16GB of RAM and can't care less about RAM usage. even when running 3 Hyper-V VMs on my PC and having 10+ Edge insider tabs open my PC still won't slow down a bit.

I remember i bought a PC around the time Windows 7 came out, 10-11 years ago and my PC had 4GB RAM and a 4 core CPU. it was a norm during that time. after 5 years i upgraded it and installed 8GB RAM. 2 years ago i upgraded once again and installed 16GB of RAM. i will probably upgrade my PC in 3-4 years and install 32 GB. so the point is, everything is going forward, the technology is advancing. hardware are getting cheaper.

compare todays Android phones with 10 years' ago Android phones. back then they had only 256 or 512 MB RAM and it was a real deal. but now the Norm is between 4-8 GB (preferably 8), the top notch phones got 12GB of RAM and they are better than 100% of the computers existed 10 years ago.

so if you keep your hardware updated then you wouldn't need to worry about little tiny RAM usages. Google and Microsoft can't do magic. maybe the best they will do is to lower RAM usage by a few megabytes (~200mb) and that's it, not a big difference.

I've never liked Internet explorer for many reasons. it shouldn't even exist today. even 5 years ago it was so bad and too slow to use.
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tistou
Bronze Contributor
Sep 07, 2019

HotCakeX 

 

I do not care about ram usage, just CPU usage (in general) and the number of processes
For me, any software that uses too much process, is coded with "the feet"

 

That's why my default browser stays IE/Edge and I'm using Edge Chromium a little bit for the moment

And on my PC, IE/Edge is as fast as Edge Chromium
If I do not use 100% IE, it's just that its engine is too old for some sites
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    tistou
    Bronze Contributor
    Sep 30, 2019

    In addition to separate and ungrouped processes (which would give more readability)
    I do not understand why in the Edge Task Manager (6 processes), the number of processes is different from the Windows Task Manager (10 processes)

     

     

    Thanks

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    HotCakeX
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    Sep 08, 2019
    Of course, EdgeHTML is kinda of a lost cause, the new Edge chromium has so much room for improvement
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    HotCakeX
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    Sep 08, 2019
    Exit of Windows 10 !?
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    tistou
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    Sep 08, 2019
    But Edge Chromium is better than Edge, the latter is not independent and works with services, Windows apps
    I replaced Edge with Edge Chromium even if Chromium has these small defects (including this one) that will probably be corrected
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    tistou
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    Sep 08, 2019

    HotCakeX 

     

    sorry for my English
    I said that at the exit of Windows10, having the design of the touch on a non-touch screen had been criticized (it has improved a little with the various updates)
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    HotCakeX
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    Sep 08, 2019
    Everything is good at its own time.

    I don't understand the rest of your reply.

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    tistou
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    Sep 08, 2019

    HotCakeX 

     

    Yes it's a pity that such a good browser is depreciated

    For the touch, do not mix a navigator used with the mouse and used in touch
    This is the problem that was criticized to MS at the exit of Windows10, even the interface with the mouse was designed for the touch (    everything was too big / spaced)
     
    Finally, it's about processes here :smile:
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    HotCakeX
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    Sep 08, 2019
    IE is depreciated. old engines, old UI, not touch friendly. that's all the reasons needed to ditch it. you keep using it though
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    tistou
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    Sep 08, 2019

    HotCakeX 

     

    Many people, including me, no longer use IE because of its incompatibility with some web pages
    Especially people who buy PCs in store (returns that I saw)

     

    But it is true that IE is better provided side options, and use

    - Just right click on a web page, create a shortcut is an option that is sorely lacking Edge / Chromium.
    - Opening a new tab that is not the priority page but remains in the background.

    - Can customize a new tab with a web page

    - Etc...

     

    When MS do its own browser, it's excellent
    After when it's "copied" to Chrome, there are also the little flaws of Chrome

     

    But I do not doubt that MS (and hope) will bring this personal touch to Edge Chromium to have a great browser
    Otherwise I do not see the interest of making a new browser fully copied to Chrome

    To come back to the process, if an optimization could be done
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    HotCakeX
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    Sep 08, 2019
    That's just an opinion and it's yours.

    majority of people don't think so that's why they ditched the IE long time ago. but you're free to use whatever you want
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    tistou
    Bronze Contributor
    Sep 08, 2019

    HotCakeX 

     

    "Coded with the feet" maybe?
    It's a French expression, it's coded very quickly (badly coded)

    If MS updated the IE engine, many people will continue to use IE, it is very well this browser :smile:
    All the right options, design very well, etc ... That it is missing to Edge/Chromium
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    HotCakeX
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    Sep 07, 2019
    I don't know what that even means

    good for you, keep using IE