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Keep Favorites Synced between Internet Explorer and Edge NOT available in Edge Chromium
- Feb 13, 2020
Chris Jackson Deleted
I'm not quite sure what's so hard to understand about the issue.
This has nothing to do with Windows 7 or with Internet Explorer specifically. How IE mode suddenly came into the picutre - I have no idea. This is all about where to store the favorites in the new Edge.
The issue is the following:
- Users are using multiple computers. To have the same desktop, documents and favorites on all those computers Microsoft's "Folder Redirection" is used and configured through GPOs.
- So Internet Explorer's favorites are stored on e.g. \\server\users\%username%\favorites
- The old Edge has a GPO that allows it to automagically sync its own favorites with Internet Explorer's favorites that are stored on that network path. If you add a favorite in either IE or the old Edge it is automagically synced to the other browser instantly.
Now the new Edge comes along and we have to face the following limitations:
- Any kind of cloud-sync or usage of Microsoft accounts is not possible due to data privacy regulations
- The new Edge is storing its favorites in the local file deep inside the %LOCALAPPDATA% folder of the user.
This causes issues for us in a number of ways.
While the first-run import of favorites (from the redirected Internet Explorer favorites) is currently broken in v80 (its supposed to be back in v81) it only provides a momentary snapshot of the redirected favorites.
The bookmarks file being a local file means that we cannot easily back it up either. And when the user receives a new PC or uses a different machine than he usually does he'll have to import all the favorites again, from the redirected Internet Explorer favorites. But all the favorites he has managed in the new Edge in the meantime are not available (or even gone for good in the case of a new PC).
Importing the same old IE favorites on different PCs will soon result in having different favorites on all those PCs. And there is no way to easily merge them either.
This is a real problem.
We really need a way to redirect the bookmarks file to a network location so that it can be:
- used from multiple PCs
- be backed up easily during the regular server backup
- not get lost when the user's PC dies or gets replaced for another reason
All this was easily doable with the redirected favorites folder used by Internet Explorer and thanks to the "keep favorites synced" GPO in the old Edge Browser.
Also, please do not suggest to use the "UserDataDir" policy. This would redirect the entire user profile to a different location. Cache and everything. It is also not quite certain whether a redirected UserDataDir can actually be used by multiple instances of Edge on different computers at the same time (locked files issue and such). But even if it was possible, we really don't want to roam 100MB+ of useless data.
All we are really looking for is the possibility to specify a network location for the "bookmarks" file that is by default stored under "C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default". That's all we really want and need.
Bonus points for actually bringing back the "keep favorites synced between IE and Edge" policy that the old Edge supported. But that would really only be the cherry on top.
Edge (Chromium-based) operates, in its core, the same way as Chrome, because of the Chromium source code.
in the User Data directory of Edge, there is a file called "Bookmarks" and "Bookmarks.bak" which is the backup file, favorites are stored in them. they are Not stored individually.
none of the Chromium based browsers out there do that, maybe it was a thing 20 years ago in Internet Explorer era but lots of stuff has changed since then.
if Microsoft wanted to change something as fundamental as that it would take lots of time modifying Chromium, that is IF it was possible.
right now the Edge developers are trying to stabilize favorites syncing which is broken (duplicate favorites, old favorites coming back, favorites not syncing etc). if they store each favorite individually, they should remake their sync engine code all over again!
not to mention that IF they manage to do that, they will render LOT OF EXTENSIONS that expect Edge as a Chromium based browser to store favorites/bookmarks in one file, USELESS. because they will no longer be compatible.
when I say Azure, Azure, Azure. there are reasons for that. there are proper, secure and well thought methods already in place. I for one don't want Microsoft do such thing and ruin lots of things for everyone just because someone doesn't like to use the correct method to do things.
Modifying Chromium like that will most likely create bugs lots of other places that will pop up later, no software can ever be bug free, when you change the code like that, lots of things will get broken.
these are all facts , Not my opinion.
That is why Chrome is a TERRIBLE browser for Corporate use and only used when there are no other alternatives. It is about as 1990's as you can get. I have been a web designer for decades and Chrome hasn't changed all that much.
#1 problem with Chrome - BLOAT. One user can have 1GB of crap that does nothing.
#2 problem with Chrome - SPYWARE - It collects data and reports home worse than any spywhere out there.
#3 problem with Chrome - RAM HOG - One Chrome session can take 10x the amount of Ram as IE.
Chromium Edge is a dream come true. It has all the benefits of IE and Edge and the dumb rendering of Chrome so it is browser replacement for all of them.
- HotCakeXFeb 25, 2020MVPSpoiler
lforbes wrote:That is why Chrome is a TERRIBLE browser for Corporate use and only used when there are no other alternatives. It is about as 1990's as you can get. I have been a web designer for decades and Chrome hasn't changed all that much.
#1 problem with Chrome - BLOAT. One user can have 1GB of crap that does nothing.
#2 problem with Chrome - SPYWARE - It collects data and reports home worse than any spywhere out there.
#3 problem with Chrome - RAM HOG - One Chrome session can take 10x the amount of Ram as IE.
Chromium Edge is a dream come true. It has all the benefits of IE and Edge and the dumb rendering of Chrome so it is browser replacement for all of them.So true..