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Elliot Kirk
Former Employee
Nov 13, 2019

Inking on Web Pages - Discussion

We have received a lot of feedback about supporting inking annotations for web pages like what we have in the current version of Microsoft Edge. Many users have told us that they use this functionali...
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HotCakeX
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Nov 16, 2019

IndustrialAutomation 

IndustrialAutomation wrote:

Rather earlier in this discussion I made an important point buried in a rant about phones: it is not acceptable to sell a product with a feature set and then remove parts of that feature set. 

However, there's nothing wrong with removing the pen support from the browser if it's moved to the operating system to make it available to the entire platform.

There is still no information about when Edge is going to be forcefully replaced for everyone and cut their access to the classic Edge. so let's not jump to conclusions

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IndustrialAutomation
Brass Contributor
Nov 16, 2019

HotCakeX Edge Classic remaining present seems a likely outcome. Certainly Internet Explorer is still around even though Microsoft obviously wishes it would go away.

 

Nevertheless I have been repeatedly burned and I really don't like the impact it has on my credibility at work. I think this is fundamentally a consequence of the influence of open source.

 

Open source etc is nice and has some advantages, but Microsoft bought into "release early release often". That's a great strategy when all of your "users" are tinkerers who like debugging things but it's a **bleep** fool thing to do with a commercial product with thousands or millions of users most of whom, if you can get them to submit a bug report, will probably write "it doesn't work". An endless stream of patches produces a perception of inability to produce a high quality product. The other big problem arising from open source behaviour patterns is a lack of commitment causing a proliferation of abandoned initiatives.

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    HotCakeX
    MVP
    Nov 17, 2019
    Drew1903 wrote:

    No, but, it is surprising after what we had heard or been given to understand & expect, earlier.

    what we had heard or been given to understand?

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    Drew1903
    Silver Contributor
    Nov 17, 2019

    IndustrialAutomation 

    No, but, it is surprising after what we had heard or been given to understand & expect, earlier.

    Cheers,
    Drew

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    IndustrialAutomation
    Brass Contributor
    Nov 17, 2019

    Drew1903 from the second of those links, "Microsoft will continue to include Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) and the original Edge with Windows 10, according to a company program manager."

     

    That's not ambiguous.

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    HotCakeX
    MVP
    Nov 17, 2019
    Look at the 2 links i put above.
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    Drew1903
    Silver Contributor
    Nov 16, 2019

    IndustrialAutomation 

    "Edge Classic remaining present seems a likely outcome. Certainly Internet Explorer is still around even though Microsoft obviously wishes it would go away.", IA

    Actually, to clarify something or 2 somethings:

    1. Edge (C) IS replacing Edge.

    2. Comparison or equating to IE does not work because... IE only lingered after Edge came along for one reason, for Enterprise with will-only-run-on-IE legacy software.  This is the same reason for which, IE Mode is available via Edge C.  And with IE Mode, reason & or need for IE is gone.  Besides that singular, exclusive consideration & reason for IE, that's it, that's all.  In other words there is no reason to have 2 different Platforms of Edge running simultaneously.  Further, remember, Edge is the OS's browser; an OS is not going to have 2 embedded browsers... Anyway, drawing parallels between how things are or have been with old IE and Edge changing Platforms, the grounds are not there, just doesn't hold water, it's apples & oranges.

    Cheers,
    Drew 


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