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Raid22
Brass Contributor
Feb 03, 2021

Feature Request - Tile Tabs / Tiling Tabs feature from Vivaldi browser

Came across Vivaldi browser and it has some lovely features that I think would benefit Edge, some of these features have already been mentioned/requested however, I am a great fan of the new Edge run...
HotCakeX's avatar
HotCakeX
MVP
Feb 03, 2021

Raid22 

Hi,
this feature in Vivaldi is truly useless, they are trying to reinvent the wheel.

 

Windows already has snapping features; has had it for more than a decade at least.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/snap-your-windows-885a9b1e-a983-a3b1-16cd-c531795e6241

 

if you want more professional snapping, custom grids with more customizations, there is PowerToys FancyZones:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/fancyzones

 

You want to snap 2 tabs next to each other for review etc.? drag them to the sides.

 

you want to snap 4 tabs in a a grid? again use the built-in feature in Windows 10 to do this.

snap 4 tabs or windows to the top-right, top-left, bottom-right, bottom-left.

 

you want to do it more professionally to more tabs and have more available customizations? use PowerToys FancyZones.

 

not only you can do this to Edge tabs, you can do this to any browser's tabs, even go beyond that, do it to almost any program!

 

  • MoGaDK's avatar
    MoGaDK
    Copper Contributor
    Sep 24, 2021
    I switch to Vivaldi for this very reason. It is immensly useful, when you have vertical screens. Agreed... It's definetly a nicety, rather than a needety. But I really like it. If Edge had this feature, I wouldn't think twice about using it as my main browser.
    • Ramouz's avatar
      Ramouz
      Brass Contributor
      Sep 24, 2021
      I'm still waiting for this feature. Having tabs tiled in one tab is so useful. I want to compare information between websites (I work with websites, hosting, plugins, etc., in my own businesses) every work day and this would be indispensable in Edge.
  • Raid22's avatar
    Raid22
    Brass Contributor
    Feb 04, 2021

    HotCakeX

     

    Hello.

     

    Appreciate your thoughts & I understand your point however, the products you suggested, in my opinion are slightly different.

     

    I use both these mentioned products/features already (Window snapping & FancyZones) in my existing workflow setup however, for different purpose. To me these "functions" are window management and not tab management.

     

    FancyZone is very useful when you want to window manage/workflow on a big screen, in my case, I have a 34" inch ultrawide monitor and this works perfectly with different windows & applications.

     

    But what happens when I am researching/technical guides etc in my field & comparing notes - do i want to open multiple sessions of Edge or any browser?? not really... why would i want to create more resource hog & overhead? Why do i want to drag and drop two tabs which opens another instance/container into another zone, when i can select the 2 tabs and combine in the same window application?

     

    With tabs being tiled, two or more websites are contained in the same window & the same instance of the browser. So when i minimise the container window, they all minimise, when I close the browser instance they all close. On the other hand, each window or instance has to be manually controlled.

     

    Also when using FancyZone, because the windows/applications is a new instance, seamless scroll, transition etc are not available. You have to actively click the window to enable focus & the function for that window. With Tiled tabs, this is seamless and all the required controls/functions of the web page are activated on mouse over focus.

     

    FanzyZone when used on smaller devices such as a 13inch laptop/Surface device is pointless yet the tiled tabbing can still be used.

     

    Obviously these are requirement based and I found the function of tiling tab in the same browser window container very very useful.

     

     

     

    • HotCakeX's avatar
      HotCakeX
      MVP
      Feb 04, 2021

      Windows and tabs are no different, they show the same content, they have the same toolbar.

      the content is not important, technical, youtube videos or memes on the internet.

      more resources? of course not. you normally view 2 pages on 2 different tabs, when you snap them to other parts of the screen, you are still consuming the same amount of resources.

      Vivaldi has no magic to show you content of 2 websites without actually consuming the same amount of resources required if you had to open them in 2 tabs. websites can't magically be merged, what happens to their cookies, the security, the isolation that needs to exist between websites so they don't see each other's data!?

      Vivaldi still has to render all the Javascript, CSS, HTML and show the web page to you.

      the only way that you would consume less amount of resources would be if Vivaldi rendered those web content server side and then stream the results to you in the form of video, that's it.

      it's very rare that user would want to scroll 2 pages at the same time. maybe only for comparison purposes. rare use cases like this better come as an extension, and not be included in the browser for everyone to occupy unnecessary space for the majority of users.

      I've tried Vivaldi myself, just like Opera is a bloated browser.

      • Ramouz's avatar
        Ramouz
        Brass Contributor
        Feb 05, 2021
        I also want tile tabs or open in sidebar!
        I searched for "tile" here to see if someone opened up that feature request. Glad to see it here.

        I love Vivaldi's implementation of it. It's superb. It's in the browser, and no need to have other browser windows opened to do this. You just select multiple tabs and click the tile tabs.
        In Firefox, you right click somewhere and do a "open in sidebar" and it works now to open it in the same browser window. Resizable, etc.

        Edge really needs that. I don't want to snap multiple windows side by side. I want same tab, same browser tiling.

        Vivaldi is very feature rich but an ultra-buggy browser that cannot be used for work or any serious usage. Perhaps only for 1 to 5 tabs at a time. Try creating multiple windows temporarily, use it a bit, move tabs around from one window to another, close the browser, re-open the browser, watch your tabs get mixed all over the windows, you'll start losing tabs. That's just one bug out of the 30+ I reported to them in the past years (none fixed because all they care about is adding new broken features rather than test them properly and fix previous bugs and make sure the foundation of the browser is well built).

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Came across Vivaldi browser and it has some lovely features that I think would benefit Edge, some of these features have already been mentioned/requested however, I am a great fan of the new Edge running the Canary build so would really like this feature coming over.

 

Tab Tiling - allows you to view web pages/sites to be viewed side by side by selecting two or more/multiple tabs together which you can tile vertically/horizontally/grid.

 

This feature is very useful when comparing/reviewing websites/forums etc or just browsing.

Example attached as a screenshot..

 

 

Thoughts?

 

 

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Came across Vivaldi browser and it has some lovely features that I think would benefit Edge, some of these features have already been mentioned/requested however, I am a great fan of the new Edge running the Canary build so would really like this feature coming over.

 

Tab Tiling - allows you to view web pages/sites to be viewed side by side by selecting two or more/multiple tabs together which you can tile vertically/horizontally/grid.

 

This feature is very useful when comparing/reviewing websites/forums etc or just browsing.

Example attached as a screenshot..

 

 

Thoughts?

 

 

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Raid22 

Hi,
this feature in Vivaldi is truly useless, they are trying to reinvent the wheel.

 

Windows already has snapping features; has had it for more than a decade at least.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/snap-your-windows-885a9b1e-a983-a3b1-16cd-c531795e6241

 

if you want more professional snapping, custom grids with more customizations, there is PowerToys FancyZones:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/fancyzones

 

You want to snap 2 tabs next to each other for review etc.? drag them to the sides.

 

you want to snap 4 tabs in a a grid? again use the built-in feature in Windows 10 to do this.

snap 4 tabs or windows to the top-right, top-left, bottom-right, bottom-left.

 

you want to do it more professionally to more tabs and have more available customizations? use PowerToys FancyZones.

 

not only you can do this to Edge tabs, you can do this to any browser's tabs, even go beyond that, do it to almost any program!

 

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Hi,
this feature in Vivaldi is truly useless, they are trying to reinvent the wheel.

 

Windows already has snapping features; has had it for more than a decade at least.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/snap-your-windows-885a9b1e-a983-a3b1-16cd-c531795e6241

 

if you want more professional snapping, custom grids with more customizations, there is PowerToys FancyZones:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/fancyzones

 

You want to snap 2 tabs next to each other for review etc.? drag them to the sides.

 

you want to snap 4 tabs in a a grid? again use the built-in feature in Windows 10 to do this.

snap 4 tabs or windows to the top-right, top-left, bottom-right, bottom-left.

 

you want to do it more professionally to more tabs and have more available customizations? use PowerToys FancyZones.

 

not only you can do this to Edge tabs, you can do this to any browser's tabs, even go beyond that, do it to almost any program!

 

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HotCakeX

 

Hello.

 

Appreciate your thoughts & I understand your point however, the products you suggested, in my opinion are slightly different.

 

I use both these mentioned products/features already (Window snapping & FancyZones) in my existing workflow setup however, for different purpose. To me these \"functions\" are window management and not tab management.

 

FancyZone is very useful when you want to window manage/workflow on a big screen, in my case, I have a 34\" inch ultrawide monitor and this works perfectly with different windows & applications.

 

But what happens when I am researching/technical guides etc in my field & comparing notes - do i want to open multiple sessions of Edge or any browser?? not really... why would i want to create more resource hog & overhead? Why do i want to drag and drop two tabs which opens another instance/container into another zone, when i can select the 2 tabs and combine in the same window application?

 

With tabs being tiled, two or more websites are contained in the same window & the same instance of the browser. So when i minimise the container window, they all minimise, when I close the browser instance they all close. On the other hand, each window or instance has to be manually controlled.

 

Also when using FancyZone, because the windows/applications is a new instance, seamless scroll, transition etc are not available. You have to actively click the window to enable focus & the function for that window. With Tiled tabs, this is seamless and all the required controls/functions of the web page are activated on mouse over focus.

 

FanzyZone when used on smaller devices such as a 13inch laptop/Surface device is pointless yet the tiled tabbing can still be used.

 

Obviously these are requirement based and I found the function of tiling tab in the same browser window container very very useful.

 

 

 

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Windows and tabs are no different, they show the same content, they have the same toolbar.

the content is not important, technical, youtube videos or memes on the internet.

more resources? of course not. you normally view 2 pages on 2 different tabs, when you snap them to other parts of the screen, you are still consuming the same amount of resources.

Vivaldi has no magic to show you content of 2 websites without actually consuming the same amount of resources required if you had to open them in 2 tabs. websites can't magically be merged, what happens to their cookies, the security, the isolation that needs to exist between websites so they don't see each other's data!?

Vivaldi still has to render all the Javascript, CSS, HTML and show the web page to you.

the only way that you would consume less amount of resources would be if Vivaldi rendered those web content server side and then stream the results to you in the form of video, that's it.

it's very rare that user would want to scroll 2 pages at the same time. maybe only for comparison purposes. rare use cases like this better come as an extension, and not be included in the browser for everyone to occupy unnecessary space for the majority of users.

I've tried Vivaldi myself, just like Opera is a bloated browser.

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I searched for \"tile\" here to see if someone opened up that feature request. Glad to see it here.

I love Vivaldi's implementation of it. It's superb. It's in the browser, and no need to have other browser windows opened to do this. You just select multiple tabs and click the tile tabs.
In Firefox, you right click somewhere and do a \"open in sidebar\" and it works now to open it in the same browser window. Resizable, etc.

Edge really needs that. I don't want to snap multiple windows side by side. I want same tab, same browser tiling.

Vivaldi is very feature rich but an ultra-buggy browser that cannot be used for work or any serious usage. Perhaps only for 1 to 5 tabs at a time. Try creating multiple windows temporarily, use it a bit, move tabs around from one window to another, close the browser, re-open the browser, watch your tabs get mixed all over the windows, you'll start losing tabs. That's just one bug out of the 30+ I reported to them in the past years (none fixed because all they care about is adding new broken features rather than test them properly and fix previous bugs and make sure the foundation of the browser is well built).","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":11,"postTime":"2021-02-05T09:10:37.859-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-02-05T09:10:37.859-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":9485},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:MicrosoftEdgeInsider/category:products-services/category:communities/community:gxcuf89792board:EdgeInsiderDiscussions/message:2112864/message:2115629","customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/common/Pager/PagerLoadMore-1745505309785":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/common/Pager/PagerLoadMore-1745505309785","value":{"loadMore":"Show More"},"localOverride":false}}}},"page":"/forums/ForumMessagePage/ForumMessagePage","query":{"boardId":"edgeinsiderdiscussions","messageSubject":"feature-request---tile-tabs--tiling-tabs-feature-from-vivaldi-browser","messageId":"2112864","replyId":"2113192"},"buildId":"HEhyUrv5OXNBIbfCLaOrw","runtimeConfig":{"buildInformationVisible":false,"logLevelApp":"info","logLevelMetrics":"info","openTelemetryClientEnabled":false,"openTelemetryConfigName":"o365","openTelemetryServiceVersion":"25.1.0","openTelemetryUniverse":"prod","openTelemetryCollector":"http://localhost:4318","openTelemetryRouteChangeAllowedTime":"5000","apolloDevToolsEnabled":false,"inboxMuteWipFeatureEnabled":false},"isFallback":false,"isExperimentalCompile":false,"dynamicIds":["./components/seo/QAPageSchema/QAPageSchema.tsx","./components/community/Navbar/NavbarWidget.tsx","./components/community/Breadcrumb/BreadcrumbWidget.tsx","./components/customComponent/CustomComponent/CustomComponent.tsx","./components/messages/TopicWithThreadedReplyListWidget/TopicWithThreadedReplyListWidget.tsx","./components/external/components/ExternalComponent.tsx","./components/messages/MessageView/MessageViewStandard/MessageViewStandard.tsx","../shared/client/components/common/List/UnwrappedList/UnwrappedList.tsx","./components/attachments/AttachmentView/AttachmentView.tsx","./components/attachments/AttachmentView/AttachmentViewChip/AttachmentViewChip.tsx","../shared/client/components/common/List/UnstyledList/UnstyledList.tsx","./components/messages/MessageView/MessageView.tsx","../shared/client/components/common/Pager/PagerLoadMore/PagerLoadMore.tsx"],"appGip":true,"scriptLoader":[{"id":"analytics","src":"https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/s/gxcuf89792/pagescripts/1730819800000/analytics.js?page.id=ForumReplyPage&entity.id=board%3Aedgeinsiderdiscussions&entity.id=message%3A2113192","strategy":"afterInteractive"}]}