Edge Chromium Official release seems to not work with Dishanywhere streaming

josh_bodner 

Well, it has been working fine like this

Which, considering Dish's co-operative track record, might be the best you can do
barring some time to try and reverse engineer some stuff

Wiesshund given that we aren't any closer to either side providing an actual fix (we still aren't seeing any actual errors on the PlayReady side, so it's hard for us to verify where in the pipeline this is failing), our video team is considering disabling PlayReady on Dish specifically and just making it fall back to WideVine.  Before they can do that though, we need to verify that Dish will work when PlayReady is completely disabled, so since you have a Dish account, could you disable the edge://flags/#edge-playready-drm-win10 flag and verify that Dish works as expected?  

Wiesshund our capacity is pretty reduced right now because of the holidays, but I'll check back again in the new year!

josh_bodner 

If you guys PM me or something
i can give you a dish account to use to test with

Wiesshund You're right about number 1, even with the feedback button right there in the toolbar, most people just don't report those sort of things.  For number 2 though, Dish originally made their support policy back when Edge Legacy was a thing, so some of the outreach we've been doing is to try to convince them that, now that we're functionally similar to Chrome (although not identical since we also have our own DRM that's unfortunately giving us unique problems), it should be relatively trivial for them to support Edge, especially since we can also do things on our end to help their servers treat us the same as Chrome if they want us to.  

josh_bodner 

Well as far as complaints received, two things

1) Average user has no idea how or where to send a complaint or anything

2) When they call DISH, the CSR's tell the user that edge is not support and not a good browser
(not kidding, call them and pretend to be a customer)
and to use google chrome as DISH only supports Chrome

As far as a dish account
If you guys pm or email me, you can use mine

Wiesshund We've still got the issue on our backlog, but we honestly aren't hearing many other complaints about this site not working.  I'm going to see if we can at least get somebody on our team with a dish account to try this out since we've just been working with bitmovin's code directly.  

josh_bodner 

I am guessing no solutions in sight?

Wiesshund Chrome is using a different DRM provider (Widevine) than we are (PlayReady).  The second issue, which doesn't have a workaround, is specific to our DRM, which is why it works in Chrome.  

josh_bodner 

Well...

How is Google doing it with Chrome?
They are using the same root source for Google Chrome as Microsoft Edge Chromium

so there must be some little trick hiding in there

Wiesshund Okay, it looks like they've broken it out into two issues.  One of the issues can be worked around by turning off hardware acceleration, the other can't.  

Wiesshund I'll check with our engineers.  Last time I asked, they were looking into a particular error they were seeing when bitmovin's code interacted with Playready.  

josh_bodner 

Guessing no new updates?

josh_bodner 

Since Chrome and Edge use the same browser code base, seems possible to do something similar
to what ever they did in Chrome?

Course i am sure they are not exactly sharing what that thing is, but yea BitMovin, i would think, would be able to shed some light on it, it is their framework after all.

Wiesshund we confirmed that they're not testing in Edge and are following up on that.  In the meantime, our engineers are also looking into the issue from the bitmovin side.  

josh_bodner 

lol

But what was their reply?

Wiesshund well, we actually got a reply from somebody over there, I'd say that's progress!  

Wiesshund I'll ask our outreach team what the status is!  

josh_bodner

Any good word yet?

Hopefully better than my outreaches to dish?
 

Wiesshund sorry, I've been out all week, I'll check back with our outreach team next week!

josh_bodner 

checking in to see if we have gained any headway with dish network?

josh_bodner 

I hope yours go better than mine.
I would hope you have a much better approach vector than i have access to.

I tried presenting the info and explaining what what going on (as well as trying to explain that edge now uses Chromium for it's core) and i may have well been pointing an ICBM at a deer in the middle of the woods in the dark.

I could quicker learn C++, reverse engineer Google's implementation of the chromium core
find out what little extra trick they are using to support playready DRM in the dynamic bitrate
and duplicate it in Edge.

I could not get past the front people.
I did try and reach out to bitmovin, since it is actually their software solution that Dish network and Mobi and some others use, but I did not get a response back from them as of yet.

I guess it seems a silly thing to niggle on, I can just open chrome for that use, but I dont like duplicating software installations and having multiple softwares that perform the same exact function.

Kind of like, why do i want to have Photoshop, Paintshop Pro, Gimp, and Paint.NET all installed if simply one of them does all the things i want anyways.

Now this one annoyance aside, so far edge is testing out well.
Even though their cores are the same, Edge does not go as memory gaga as chrome does with the same exact tabs open.
Chrome also seems to spawn a greater number of phantom threads, that are probably used for background handling, than edge does.

Kind of funny to have 32GB of ram and see 70% used up just for some web browsing.
Though, in fairness my "some web browsing" might entail having 15+ tabs running trying to find a source for some obsolete dual H-Bridge
(Ask the old sidewinder team if they are still around, they will know exactly what i was looking for)