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josh_bodner
Microsoft
MicrosoftDev channel update to 90.0.803.0 is live
Hello Insiders! Today we’re releasing build 90.0.803.0 to the Dev channel. We’ve got some cool things to talk about up front, and here they are:
First, if you’ve ever wondered what a cooki...
josh_bodner here is an example of why moving the download bar from the bottom is a bad idea. There are literally thousands of sites with designs like this - all trying to help people find their downloads and use them properly. Your redesign SCREWS THESE UP - and confuses users when they don't see what the site is telling them to look for. Please restore the bottom bar. If you want a drop down download manager make it OPTIONAL or allow BOTH. But don't make it the default.
Lee Drake one of the best things about the download bar is that NEW DOWNLOADS appear in a predictable place where the browser could literally point to it and it was ALWAYS THERE. The new "download manager" doesn't offer that option. Depending on scroll position the download may be off the screen above the top scroll. The manager will drop down "wherever" relative to the content on the screen. Walking a user through using a downloaded file is now much more difficult if they're not used to looking for it in the manager, and depending on settings may be hidden altogether. It may be fine for experts, but for neophyte users it's going to be MORE confusing - especially if switching from another browser.
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Lee Drake wrote:Lee Drake one of the best things about the download bar is that NEW DOWNLOADS appear in a predictable place where the browser could literally point to it and it was ALWAYS THERE. The new "download manager" doesn't offer that option. Depending on scroll position the download may be off the screen above the top scroll. The manager will drop down "wherever" relative to the content on the screen. Walking a user through using a downloaded file is now much more difficult if they're not used to looking for it in the manager, and depending on settings may be hidden altogether. It may be fine for experts, but for neophyte users it's going to be MORE confusing - especially if switching from another browser.
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the new downloads flyout experience never does that. the downloads prompt always shows up in a Fixed place, top-right side of the browser, the designated area for Edge toolbar items.
not just anywhere on the screen and definitely not depended on the scroll position.
I've been trying the new flyout download experience ever since it was added to Edge canary, it never appeared anywhere else other than its designated place.
HotCakeX the new downloads ALSO will show the currently downloaded file in a different position depending on where the user has scrolled. The old bar ALWAYS showed the newest downloaded file on the screen in EXACTLY the same place in the lower left corner of the the user's content window.
Why are you Spamming the thread? you can put all of them in one place.
many people are subscribed to this thread, it sends Emails and notifications to everyone.
Spamming won't prove anything and doesn't get you anywhere. it just annoys everyone and makes people reluctant to read the thread.
there is no need to make arrows to show user where to look for downloads, Edge makes it clear where when a download is offered and asks for user input.
HotCakeX I said RELATIVE TO THE CONTENT OF THE SCREEN. Let me show you. Look at the illustration I uploaded. This works on every chromium compatible or firefox browswer that presents a download bar at the bottom of the screen RELATIVE TO THE CONTENT the newest downloaded file is ALWAYS UNDER THAT ARROW. And the illustration on the right side of the content I just showed you tells them to click that specific download and what to do with it. The flyout appears at the top of the screen. I will do a download with the new bar and show you but depending on the width of the open window and the dimensions of the screen a similar arrow on a fixed website may be pointing at the file or at a part of the screen that is not anywhere near that AND the developer would have to design different screens for YOUR browser vs EVERY OTHER BROWSER OUT THERE to tell the user what to do, show that screen instead of the standard screen etc. You have to look at the ramifications of browser changes within the scope of DEVELOPERS as well as users. One of the downfalls of IE was that they did all sorts of "non standard" stuff in their browser to the point where developers threw up their hands and said screw this, we're just not going to support IE.
