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Dev channel update to 90.0.803.0 is live
josh_bodner here is an example of why moving the download bar from the bottom is a bad idea. There are literally thousands of sites with designs like this - all trying to help people find their downloads and use them properly. Your redesign SCREWS THESE UP - and confuses users when they don't see what the site is telling them to look for. Please restore the bottom bar. If you want a drop down download manager make it OPTIONAL or allow BOTH. But don't make it the default.
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Lee Drake wrote:josh_bodner here is an example of why moving the download bar from the bottom is a bad idea. There are literally thousands of sites with designs like this - all trying to help people find their downloads and use them properly. Your redesign SCREWS THESE UP - and confuses users when they don't see what the site is telling them to look for. Please restore the bottom bar. If you want a drop down download manager make it OPTIONAL or allow BOTH. But don't make it the default.
just draw the same arrow in the opposite way, pointing to the top right instead of bottom left, problem fixed.
it's not really necessary to draw and arrow for people, nowadays websites rarely do this. but if that's what you wanna do, draw an arrow pointing to the top right.
Edge is not the only browser with a Modern flyout experience, Firefox which is the 3rd popular browser does the same. I don't even remember Opera, Vivaldi, Yandex, Safari etc.
the thing is, when a download is offered, Edge makes it very clear to the user and asks for input.
HotCakeX If you think drawing arrows isn't necesssary then why do you think sites do it? I both write websites and support end users. Ask my how many times I have to tell people to click the link to their zoom meeting or ringcentral meeting so I can start a support session with them DESPITE THE ARROW POINTING TO THE DOWNLOAD ON THE SCREEN. You know what - I'm starting to see how the other users on this forum feel. You are writing a DEV version to get input, but you don't seem to WANT input, you just want to argue for your position. That's not the signs of a good dev. Trust me. I am one. Sometimes change for the sake of change is not a good idea.
HotCakeX you don't write many websites do you. Telling developers they have to "just draw the arrow in a different place because your browser does stupid stuff no one else does is - just stupid. It's a TON of extra work on the developers part to support this. And what if Microsoft changes it again? This is why IE got tossed on the **bleep**ter (among other reasons) because developers had to turn somersaults to support it.
Lee Drake one of the best things about the download bar is that NEW DOWNLOADS appear in a predictable place where the browser could literally point to it and it was ALWAYS THERE. The new "download manager" doesn't offer that option. Depending on scroll position the download may be off the screen above the top scroll. The manager will drop down "wherever" relative to the content on the screen. Walking a user through using a downloaded file is now much more difficult if they're not used to looking for it in the manager, and depending on settings may be hidden altogether. It may be fine for experts, but for neophyte users it's going to be MORE confusing - especially if switching from another browser.
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Lee Drake wrote:Lee Drake one of the best things about the download bar is that NEW DOWNLOADS appear in a predictable place where the browser could literally point to it and it was ALWAYS THERE. The new "download manager" doesn't offer that option. Depending on scroll position the download may be off the screen above the top scroll. The manager will drop down "wherever" relative to the content on the screen. Walking a user through using a downloaded file is now much more difficult if they're not used to looking for it in the manager, and depending on settings may be hidden altogether. It may be fine for experts, but for neophyte users it's going to be MORE confusing - especially if switching from another browser.
Are you sure you're looking at the right thing?
the new downloads flyout experience never does that. the downloads prompt always shows up in a Fixed place, top-right side of the browser, the designated area for Edge toolbar items.
not just anywhere on the screen and definitely not depended on the scroll position.
I've been trying the new flyout download experience ever since it was added to Edge canary, it never appeared anywhere else other than its designated place.
