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Dev Channel update to 111.0.1660.6 is live
Hello Insiders! Today, we are releasing build 111.0.1660.6 to the Dev channel for Windows and 111.0.1660.4 for macOS, which includes the new Bing copilot. For more details about the Bing copilot, check the blog post below.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2023/02/07/reinventing-search-with-a-new-ai-powered-microsoft-bing-and-edge-your-copilot-for-the-web/
Thanks again for sending us feedback and helping us improve our Insider builds.
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- I've been using Edge since it accidentally was leak on the web, long before it's official release. I really liked it. I've recommended it to friends and colleagues over the years.
But right now, it's not the lean, mean and clean browser it was. Now, it's bogged down with so many useless features. And you guys keep piling them on. Shopping, "buy now, pay later", cite, math solver, web capture, web select, rewards, games... They just keep on coming. The latest "bing button" that can't be turned off is the latest. Just let us have a normal, uncluttered browser in peace, yes?
I've come to appreciate some functionality, such as built in ad blocker and sleeping tabs. They're great. But everything else... come on. I can't recommend this browser anymore, and I've moved on to Brave.Edge is indeed showing quite a bit of bloat now. And Brave is indeed a genuinely nice browser. However, it has shortcomings vs Edge. Compiled the following notes about that some months ago.
ESSENTIAL BRAVE SHORTCOMINGS (TO ME)
Brave has much less smooth scrolling of web pages than Edge (I use a Logitech mouse which enhances scrolling, but Brave is not supported apparently). Smooth scrolling is important when you read a lot on the web. And Edge scrolls pdf-files very smoothly too.
Brave does not save Tab Groups when closing the browser. In Edge, you store Tab Groups permanently in a Tab Collection. When you open a Collection, all the tabs that were saved in it open. Edge Collections also synchronize with mobile devices.
Brave has no way to add all open tabs to a Tab Group at once. Edge does.
Brave does not have a send-tab-to-phone (and Brave Mobile does not have a send-tab-to-computer). Edge does.
Brave does not support universal password manager. Edge has built-in Microsoft Authenticator (for logins, 2FA codes).Because Brave Mobile does not support the Android Autofill Provider API, website logins cannot automatically come from your password manager set in Android Settings (e.g. Microsoft Authenticator). (Brave stores passwords on Brave's servers).
Brave Desktop does not put idle tabs to sleep (consumes less CPU). Edge does.
OTHER BRAVE SHORTCOMINGS
Brave does not have a "Display Icon Only" for Favorites on the Favorites Toolbar. (One must manually delete the name of the favorite, which is not desirable).
Brave Desktop does not have a built-in "readability" function for a "decluttered" display of web pages. Edge does.
Brave Mobile does not synchronize settings 100% between computer and mobile.
Brave Desktop does not have a built-in PDF viewer. Edge does.
Brave does not have a built-in webpage screenshot tool. Edge has "web capture", so you can save a (part of) page as JPEG.
Brave does not support "legacy Internet Explorer" websites. Edge has an "Internet Explorer Compatibility" mode.
And some other little things.- Used Brave a looooong time.... gave it up for Edge... Much much better... all around!
- New design is really worst. give us option to disable that big BIng button in toolbar which is wasting space. old design was much more minimalistic. and those floating borders looks annoying on dark mode website.
- DarkCoder. This works: https://www.reddit.com/r/MicrosoftEdge/comments/10jccjy/remove_the_discover_purple_star_button/
- Feature request: Edge contains functionality to enable Dark Mode for websites, via a flag. Would be great if this could be enabled via Settings, and with the possibility to specify to which websites/domains it should be applied.
Eric_E I agreed with the other replies that there are a lot of wasted space in the new UI design. Those few pixels that border almost all elements when add up together make the actual web page content quite small compared to previous versions. Not to mention that the new profile icon location is quite unintuitive.
The discover icon/button is very annoying and quite distracting for productivity.
Please put a pointless 10-Pixel-Frame around websites in my browser so there is less space for the content itself.
Said noone, ever
- The new design looks good, it only needs adjustments, for example they should not remove space on the sides, just round the corners, so as not to alter the use of the scroll bar, it is a version under development and I think the browser should not have a design foreign to the operating system.
I'll have to echo what everyone else is already saying. The rounded cornering of the website page inside the window is distracting and makes the browser look whack with the white space between the browser window and the webpage frame. Revert that now.
also, I get that the chat bubble bing logo is where bing/chatgpt will land, but that is also distracting. There should be a way to hide it. we all know that if we're going to be using bing/chatgpt/ai, it should show up in the text box dropdown that starts showing suggestions as we type in the URL/Search text box (ask bing ai in that drop down list or whatever). probably more annoying that the feature isn't even active yet.Also, if you leave the discover side bar pane open and close a tab, it crashes the browser.
- Rounded Tabs and an unpinned Vertical Tab pane do not coexist well. The unpinned pane has square corners, so when you hover over the tabs, before the pane opens, it is re-drawn with rounded corners, causing a flicker effect, which is distracting.
- The new version looks disgusting. Or, maybe I'm simply too stupid to understand the thought process behind this "redesign". I don't even know why I'm suprised, to be honest, looks like adding bloat (even visually) is a new trend.
Edge used to be so nice, fast, clean, a breath of fresh air (as much as a browser can be these days).
You want to grab a bigger market share? Start removing all the bloat that has been added in the past year or so. Hire a few good UI/UX designers who actually know what they're doing.
If this gets pushed to the stable, I'm done.- Out of curiosity, are you still running Windows 10? I wonder if this isn't an attempt at "harmonizing" Edge with Windows 11. It just feels like Microsoft is chasing the Mac interface design.
- This new design is horrible. I find the border around the screen very distracting.
And why are Favorites no longer opening in a new tab??I also lost the always open favorites in a new tab setting.
