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Deployment - Fonts, Favorites, Sync
HotCakeX "You can test the Enterprise Edge insider stable from the link below ..."
The Enterprise version (the version downloaded through your link as MicrosoftEdgeEnterpriseX64.msi) and the consumer version (the version downloaded through Microsoft Insider as MicrosoftEdgeSetupBeta.exe) are the same version (both 79.0.309.56), but neither seem particularly useful for testing Microsoft's planned upgrade process through the Windows 10 updater because both are manual installs and neither imports favorites/bookmarks from EdgeClassic; both link to the EdgeChromium server's MSA if available**. The difference between the two installs is that Enterprise removes EdgeClassic and the Windows Insider install does not.
"... there is a high chance that the version of Edge stable from that link is actually the final one ..."
I assume so, since the Enterprise version and the consumer version are identical build numbers.
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** I brought one of the railroad's computers home for a clean install of Windows 10. At present, the computer is a clean version of Windows 10 set to a local account rather than an MSA, so if EdgeChromium is going to install bookmarks from anywhere, it will be from EdgeClassic. I'll take some time tomorrow to populate EdgeClassic with a set of "fingerprinted" favorites/bookmarks and see what happens when I install the Enterprise version.
They do import favorites/reading list/tabs set aside etc from Edge classic and even from Internet explorer.
I just tried it myself a couple of hours ago.
- tomscharbachDec 30, 2019Bronze Contributor
"They do import favorites/reading list/tabs set aside etc from Edge classic and even from Internet explorer."
You are right about that (as it applies to favorites -- I don't have reading lists or tabs set aside, not do I use IE, so I'll take your word for that). I didn't notice it immediately after install because my Favorites Bar on the test machine (1366x768) masked the import from Edge because the Chromium favorites took up the entire bar. I took a closer look after reading this post and saw the duplicates.**
It looks like EdgeChromium imported the EdgeClassic bookmarks and added them to the EdgeChromium bookmarks. In any event, I now have 16 duplicate favorites on the Favorites Bar, and 11 duplicate favorites in the "Other favorites" menu, the EdgeClassic favorites contained in a folder labeled "Bookmarks".
I'm glad you prodded me into looking closer. This is something I had been wondering about, and now I know what will happen in cases where there are two MSA sets, one on the EdgeClassic server and the other on the EdgeChromium server.
- HotCakeXDec 30, 2019MVPWell that's good to hear 🙂
- tomscharbachJan 01, 2020Bronze Contributor
HotCakeX "Well that's good to hear 🙂"
I guess so.
I suspect that Microsoft Edge Insiders might be surprised, though, if consumer-side Windows Update installation follows the path of Enterprise-side msi installation and creates duplicate Favorites/Bookmarks.
What appears to happen with MicrosoftEdgeEnterpriseX64.msi is that EdgeChromiumEnterprise installation brings over EdgeClassic Favorites/Bookmarks from the EdgeClassic-server tied to the user's MSA, and adds them to EdgeChromium Favorites/Bookmarks on the EdgeChromium-server tied to the user's MSA, creating duplicate Favorites/Bookmarks, then replicating across all EdgeChromium installations tied to the user's EdgeChromium-server MSA.
That was my experience, anyway.
As discussed in other threads, I prepared to test EdgeChromium installation by creating two identical lists of Favorites/Bookmarks, one in EdgeClassic and one in EdgeChromium. To "fingerprint" the source, I marked all Favorites/Bookmarks in EdgeClassic with an "E" or an "e" and marked all Favorites/Bookmarks in EdgeChromium with a "C" or a "c".''
That created these sets of Favorites/Bookmarks:
(1) EDGE CHROMIUM BEFORE INSTALLING MicrosoftEdgeEnterpriseX64.msi:
On the Favorites Bar:
ForumC,MmailC,YmailC,GmailC,FBc,BingC,GmpsC,AmzC,RtrC,NflxC,ABc,JMGc,TWCc,tURLc,MSNc,511C
In "Other Favorites":
NEWSc-Advocate,NEWSc-Alternet, NEWSc-Capitol Times, NEWSc-Politics Today-Early & Often, NEWSc-Mother Jones, NEWSc-New York Times, NEWSc-Politico, NEWSc-Real Clear Politics, NEWSc-Washington Post, NEWSc-Wisconsin State Journal, NEWSc-Wonkette, MARKER1**, MARKER2**(2) EDGE CLASSIC BEFORE INSTALLING MicrosoftEdgeEnterpriseX64.msi:
On the Favorites Bar:
ForumE,MmailE,YmailE,GmailE,FBc,BingE,GmpsE,AmzE,RtrE,NflxE,ABe,JMGc,TWCe,tURLe,MSNe,511E
In "Bookmarks Menu":
NEWSe-Advocate,NEWSe-Alternet, NEWSe-Capitol Times, NEWSe-Politics Today Early & Often, NEWSe-Mother Jones, NEWSe-New York Times, NEWSe-Politico, NEWSe-Real Clear Politics, NEWSe-Washington Post, NEWSe-Wisconsin State Journal, NEWSe-Wonkette, MARKER1**, MARKER2**I then ran the MicrosoftEdgeEnterpriseX64.msi installation routine, resulting in this set of Favorites/Bookmarks:
(3) EDGE CHROMIUM AFTER INSTALLING g MicrosoftEdgeEnterpriseX64.msi:
On the Favorites Bar:
ForumC,MmailC,YmailC,GmailC,FBc,BingC,GmpsC,AmzC,RtrC,NflxC,ABc,JMGc,TWCc,tURLc,MSNc,511C,ForumE,MmailE,YmailE,GmailE,FBc,BingE,GmpsE,AmzE,RtrE,NflxE,ABe,JMGc,TWCe,tURLe,MSNe,511E
In "Other Favorites":
NEWSc-Advocate,NEWSc-Alternet, NEWSc-Capitol Times, NEWSc-Politics Today-Early & Often, NEWSc-Mother Jones, NEWSc-New York Times, NEWSc-Politico, NEWSc-Real Clear Politics, NEWSc-Washington Post, NEWSc-Wisconsin State Journal, NEWSc-Wonkette, MARKER1**, MARKER2**
In an "Other Favorites" folder titled "Bookmarks Menu":
NEWSe-Advocate,NEWSe-Alternet, NEWSe-Capitol Times, NEWSe-Politics Today Early & Often, NEWSe-Mother Jones, NEWSe-New York Times, NEWSe-Politico, NEWSe-Real Clear Politics, NEWSe-Washington Post, NEWSe-Wisconsin State Journal, NEWSe-Wonkette, MARKER1**, MARKER2**CAVEATS:
(1) I do not know whether EdgeChromium installation through the Windows Update process (that is, as I understand it from you and the documents I've read, the deployment plan for consumer-side cutover) will or will not include a routine to identify duplicates and remove them. It is quite possible that the Windows Update process will not create duplicates or eliminate duplicates during installation.
(2) The "duplicate" issue will only affect users (such as Microsoft Edge Insiders) who have an EdgeChromium-server list of Favorites/Bookmarks existing at the time of cutover; the issue will not affect users who are not (and have not been at any point) Microsoft Edge Insiders and do not have an EdgeChromium-server list of Favorites/Bookmarks.
(3) I do not keep passwords in my browsers and have not tested whether or not passwords will duplicate, and I have not tested what happens with other elements being brought over from EdgeClassic.
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** MARKER1 and MARKER2 were favorites/bookmarks created to test whether the cutover process would treat absolutely identical favorites/bookmarks as duplicates, eliminating one set on cutover. MARKER1 points to an identical link in both the EdgeClassic and EdgeChromium sets, as does MARKER2. The cutover process did not identify either MARKER1 or MARKER2 as duplicates of one another and eliminate one or the other when cutting over.