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could you make a version of edge for debian and also manjaro could it be compiled as tar file and is
HotCakeX "I didn't talk about simplicity. those distros are popular and VM hypervisors built in and also free from 3rd party. so again, Everyone is able to test, just grab a Linux distro and install it on a VM. [N]o need for a certain community to do the testing."
It is certainly the case that anyone can toss up a VM with a supported Linux distro installed and test Edge on that distro. Testers who elect that route need to be aware that a number of popular distros (e.g. Manjaro, Solus and so on) are neither directly supported nor directly compatible with deb or rpm, and should avoid trying to test on those distros.
But what is the point of encouraging people who don't use Linux to test Edge in a VM using a distro with which they aren't familiar and (probably) know little about? It seems to me that little will be learned except what Microsoft must (should, anyway) already know -- Edge can be installed on this-or-that distro, functions acceptably in a general sense, and is missing this-or-that feature/function. The point of having Edge tested by Linux users (rather than casual VM testing by non-users) is to move beyond superficial testing into actual use cases in actual, real-world Linux installations.
It looks like Microsoft is working with Canonical, RedHat, SUSE Software Solutions and others to test Edge within the commercial segment of the Linux market, which seems to be Microsoft's target for Edge and Linux support in general (e.g. WSL2, which works off a Microsoft-developed version of the Linux kernel, and a limited array of WSL2-supported distros -- Debian, Kali, Ubuntu, SUSE). Microsoft support for Linux seems to be clearly focused on Enterprise customers and developers rather than end users. Whether or not that is the case, Edge is probably getting sufficient testing from within the commercial Linux community to obviate the need for casual testing by Linux non-users.
Looking beyond speculation/theory and into the real world for a moment, the answer to paulstechtips questions seem to be, at this point, (1) Microsoft will be directly supporting Debian in October, (2) Microsoft will not be supporting Manjaro (an Arch-based distro using pamac) at that time, and (3) Edge, like Chrome, is built on open source Chromium Project code but is not itself open source.
I think that I've said about all I have to say on the subject. I hope that you will enjoy your testing.
tomscharbach wrote:HotCakeX "I didn't talk about simplicity. those distros are popular and VM hypervisors built in and also free from 3rd party. so again, Everyone is able to test, just grab a Linux distro and install it on a VM. [N]o need for a certain community to do the testing."
It is certainly the case that anyone can toss up a VM with a supported Linux distro installed and test Edge on that distro. Testers who elect that route need to be aware that a number of popular distros (e.g. Manjaro, Solus and so on) are neither directly supported nor directly compatible with deb or rpm, and should avoid trying to test on those distros.
But what is the point of encouraging people who don't use Linux to test Edge in a VM using a distro with which they aren't familiar and (probably) know little about? It seems to me that little will be learned except what Microsoft must (should, anyway) already know -- Edge can be installed on this-or-that distro, functions acceptably in a general sense, and is missing this-or-that feature/function. The point of having Edge tested by Linux users (rather than casual VM testing by non-users) is to move beyond superficial testing into actual use cases in actual, real-world Linux installations.
It looks like Microsoft is working with Canonical, RedHat, SUSE Software Solutions and others to test Edge within the commercial segment of the Linux market, which seems to be Microsoft's target for Edge and Linux support in general (e.g. WSL2, which works off a Microsoft-developed version of the Linux kernel, and a limited array of WSL2-supported distros -- Debian, Kali, Ubuntu, SUSE). Microsoft support for Linux seems to be clearly focused on Enterprise customers and developers rather than end users. Whether or not that is the case, Edge is probably getting sufficient testing from within the commercial Linux community to obviate the need for casual testing by Linux non-users.
Looking beyond speculation/theory and into the real world for a moment, the answer to paulstechtips questions seem to be, at this point, (1) Microsoft will be directly supporting Debian in October, (2) Microsoft will not be supporting Manjaro (an Arch-based distro using pamac) at that time, and (3) Edge, like Chrome, is built on open source Chromium Project code but is not itself open source.
I think that I've said about all I have to say on the subject. I hope that you will enjoy your testing.
you mention a lot of off-topic stuff that have nothing to do with this thread.
OP is simply asking for Edge release.
Anyone can test Edge on Linux, on VM or actual computer, find problems when they use Edge normally, just like they use it on Windows or Mac, and report findings through feedback button.
no need for specific community or experts to do this. it's already being done by ordinary people on Windows and Mac. Linux is no different. no need to write a letter for something simple as that.
[N]o need to write a letter for something simple as that ...
On reflection, I agree. My rather lengthy comments belabored the obvious. Linux users will know whether or not Edge can be tested on the distro they use, testers who don't use Linux will almost certainly follow the path of least resistance and install one of the directly-supported distros so package manager dependencies won't be a problem for them, and experienced testers understand the strengths and limitations of testing outside a real-use environment. Enough said.
[N]o need for specific community or experts to [test] ...
I strongly disagree. Linux is a complex operating environment, interacts with hardware differently than Windows, deploys a variety of distros with different dependency sets, interacts with applications differently, and often does not link cleanly into the Windows ecosystem. Linux users testing in a real-use environment are more likely than non-users to catch the problems related to these differences, and the more expertise in the Linux-user testing group, the better, as far as I am concerned.
I don't dismiss the value of non-user testing (every pair of eyes on is a pair of eyes on, and every pair of eyes helps). So I encourage Windows users who don't otherwise use Linux to test Edge in a Linux environment, if that is what they want to do.
To my mind, though, the value of non-user testing does not eliminate the need for thorough testing by Linux users in a real-use environment as a necessary precondition for a successful launch.
- Don't think so. Edge has provided enough tools for anyone to test the features and report them back to the developers in case of bugs. the browser automatically sends additional necessary info.